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Re: Emacs Anyone?


From: Fred Kiefer
Subject: Re: Emacs Anyone?
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2017 08:00:58 +0100

> Am 02.03.2017 um 01:15 schrieb Steven Nunez <address@hidden>:
> 
> That is unfortunate. It looks a lot better when developers eat their own dog 
> food. A few of questions for the team then, if you don't mind:
> 
>       • What are GNUStep developers using? Emacs compiled for Gnome?

I use the Emacs that comes with my distribution.

>       • Did it ever work well? Seems all the posts I can find out the topic 
> said something wasn't quite right, but that's to be expected since they would 
> not be posting otherwise.

There was a time, when it worked quite well, but Emacs got rewritten to support 
newer Cocoa versions and we had to keep up with the features. At that time it 
wasn’t used much and things got broken.

>       • Does anyone know how broken it is? I.e. What would it take to get 
> things working?

No, the only way to find out is to compile it and fix the issues. I could give 
it a try over the next weekend.

> I may be interested in sponsoring a maintainer, provided it is not a huge 
> expense.

That is a great offer, thank you!
Fred

> On Thursday, March 2, 2017 1:50 AM, Germán Arias <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Steven, unfortunately the Emacs with GNUstep is unmaintained. I remember 
> the problem you mention, I had to copy the GNUstep headers to a place where 
> the configure script can found it. But even if it builds you will face many 
> problems. 
> 
> Regards.
> Germán
> 
> El mar, 28-02-2017 a las 11:02 +0000, Steven Nunez escribió:
>> Greetings all,
>> 
>> Is anyone out there using emacs 25 (or any other version) with GNUStep? I'm 
>> running into many of the same problems described in this thread:
>> 
>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014-07/msg00070.html
>> 
>> but none of the solutions there work for me. This might be because I'm 
>> running on FreeBSD, but I would not have thought that to make a huge 
>> difference. I've also seen it mentioned that "Emacs can be built and run 
>> under GNUstep, but there are still issues to be addressed. Interested 
>> developers should contact the emacs-devel mailing list." 
>> (https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/GNUstep-Support.html#GNUstep-Support)
>>  This seems to be confirmed in several other posts related to the topic that 
>> I came across whilst searching (crashes, font problems, etc.)
>> 
>> Specifically, I can't get passed:
>> 
>> ...
>> checking AppKit/AppKit.h usability... no
>> checking AppKit/AppKit.h presence... no
>> configure: error: The include files (AppKit/AppKit.h etc) that are required 
>> for a Nextstep build are missing or cannot be compiled.
>> ...
>> 
>> The config line for FreeBSD 11 (zsh), with GNUStep installed from packages:
>> 
>> env CFLAGS=-DGNUSTEP ./configure --with-ns 
>> --with-gnustep-conf=/usr/local/GNUstep.conf
>> 
>> Given all the difficulty that seems to surround this, I thought I would 
>> confirm that it will actually work before banging my head on this one too 
>> much longer.
>> 
>> Anyone got it working?
>> 
>> Regards,
>>     - Steve
>> 
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