[Top][All Lists]
[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]
Re: Customize fringe
From: |
Simon Josefsson |
Subject: |
Re: Customize fringe |
Date: |
Fri, 10 May 2002 00:13:43 +0200 |
User-agent: |
Gnus/5.090007 (Oort Gnus v0.07) Emacs/21.2.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) |
"Stefan Monnier" <monnier+gnu/address@hidden> writes:
>> > See my previous post yesterday or the day before on a separate thread
>> > for why I don't think there should be a "toggle fringe" in the menu bar.
>> This was it:
> [...]
> No this was not it.
> It was:
Oops. I guess there were several articles in the thread.
> Admittedly, I forced the tone. But I just feel like users might miss
> on the neat fringes just because they think they don't want them.
> If you turn off the fringes you lose:
> - legibility (chars stuck right next to a window border are more difficult
> to read; the fringes act like a margin).
> - continuation glyphs (i.e. it's not the same as on console).
> - neat icons instead of overlayed text for the gud&edebug overlay arrow.
> - various future extensions like mouse bindings in the fringes.
>
> I don't think the tradeoffs are obvious to the first-time user (even if he's
> an experienced Emacs user) so she might make the wrong decision. This
> is to be contrasted to other "similar" things like the menu-bar, the
> tool-bar, the scroll-bar where the user can be reasonably expected to know
> what she loses by turning it off.
>
> I'm not saying turning off the fringe should be a hidden feature.
> Just that it shouldn't be in the user's face.
I think that would translate into having fringe.el but no
modifications to menu-bar.el, meaning the user need to M-x
toggle-fringe RET or something like that.
The following has the modifications suggested by Miles; it uses
:require and it has a more flexible :type.
fringe.el
Description: application/emacs-lisp
Re: Customize fringe, Eli Zaretskii, 2002/05/09
- Re: Customize fringe, Stefan Monnier, 2002/05/09
- Re: Customize fringe, Simon Josefsson, 2002/05/09
- Re: Customize fringe, Stefan Monnier, 2002/05/09
- Re: Customize fringe,
Simon Josefsson <=
- Re: Customize fringe, Simon Josefsson, 2002/05/09
- Re: Customize fringe, Pavel JanÃk, 2002/05/11
- Re: Customize fringe, Simon Josefsson, 2002/05/11
- Re: Customize fringe, Eli Zaretskii, 2002/05/11
- Re: Customize fringe, Simon Josefsson, 2002/05/11
Re: Customize fringe, Kim F. Storm, 2002/05/11
Re: Customize fringe, Richard Stallman, 2002/05/11
Re: Customize fringe, Kim F. Storm, 2002/05/09