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Re: GTK file selector

From: Juri Linkov
Subject: Re: GTK file selector
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:49:00 +0200
User-agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux)

> Do you not understand what the GTK2 people did? They didn’t remove features,
> it’s just as possible to use the new dialog box in the same way as the old.

The filename entry field (with available TAB completion like in Emacs) was
a very useful feature.  Neither C-l nor a small text box that appears
after starting typing is an acceptable replacement.

> And yes, making GNU Emacs behave more like a Win32 app, like Notepad, _will_
> make naïve users happy. Look at the success of CUA-mode.

CUA-mode doesn't disable useful Emacs features.

> Hang round with Win32 users looking for an advanced editor, and they’ll
> go for Notepad++ long before GNU Emacs, because all their habits from
> Notepad work in Notepad++, and not in emacs.

Notepad++ is not easier to use for naive users than Emacs.

> Emacs is more featureful, but not enough to overcome the pain of finding
> out what CUA-mode is

The top-level menu item in the Options menu that enables CUA-mode
and its tooltip are self-descriptive enough.

> and doing all the other donkey-work to have the editor behave like what
> they’re used to.

Experts can do this easily anyway.

> They abandon it because of stagnant development, the design and
> implementation clusterfuck that is Mule from the perspective of European
> language users (search for ö not working again!)

Not in the unicode-2 branch.

> and minimal consideration for GUI users in this age of 17"
> screens. Among other reasons.
> Eclipse, VIM or Notepad++ seem to be what most of the power users I know who
> chose an advanced editor recently are using.

I don't think VIM belongs to the category of Notepad-like editors.

Juri Linkov

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