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Re: mode-line tooltips for "[" and "]" in recursive-edit


From: Jan Djärv
Subject: Re: mode-line tooltips for "[" and "]" in recursive-edit
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:38:49 +0100
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Dan Nicolaescu skrev:
Could you please respect the mail headers? (This is not the fist time
you are doing this).

"Drew Adams" <address@hidden> writes:

  > > It would be nice if [ and ] that appear in the mode-line in
  > > recursive-edit had a tooltip explaining what they are.  Such tooltips
  > > will be helpful for beginners.
> > > > Can someone please add the tooltips? > > Why do you suggest a change and then, in the same breath, ask someone to go
  > ahead and install it? Isn't that jumping the gun a bit?

It is jumping the gun when dealing with someone that just wants to
nitpick.  Someone that wants to cooperate can choose to actually discuss
the idea.

  > I, for one, think this enhancement would be silly. Tooltips for the
> mode-line abound already.
The logic here is flawed: the fact that the mode-line has tooltips for
other unrelated items has zero implications about the tooltips for
recursive-edit. To explain why this is needed: good UI design provides clues for what
the elements of the UI.  Tooltips are a way to provide such clues, we
use them already.

But it is very annoying with all this new tool tips when you have tooltip-use-echo-area set to t. The minibuffer expands and shrinks for multiline tooltips just because you happen to pass the modeline with the pointer.

Is there a way to turn off modeline tooltips?  I think that would be useful.

        Jan D.




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