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Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p |
Date: |
Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:02:09 +0300 |
> From: Chong Yidong <address@hidden>
> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:37:59 -0400
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden>, David Kastrup <address@hidden>,
> address@hidden
>
> James Cloos <address@hidden> writes:
>
> > In gedit C-f and C-b move forward and backward logically, whereas LEFT
> > and RIGHT move left and right visually. I suspect that all παν語 (aka
> > pango) apps -- notably including most gtk/gnome apps -- will also do so.
> >
> > In seamonkey, in a web-page's text input box, both the arrow keys and
> > the C-b and C-f keys move visually.
> >
> > In gvim, both the h and l keys and the arrow keys move visually.
> >
> > In Openoffice.org, the arrow keys move logically.
>
> Well, this sample indicates a complete lack of consensus, contra Eli's
> earlier statement that
I don't think so. At least, we should remove gvim from this sample,
and wait for James to provide more accurate information about the
rest.
> >>> this is what users of bidirectional scripts expect -- they are used
> >>> to it in every other bidi-aware application out there.
>
> One possibility is that editors intended specifically for bidi, such as
> native-language Hebrew or Arabic apps, have a convention that vim,
> gedit, etc have not taken up. So, could anyone who has experience with
> such apps speak up?
I just did speak up. What is implemented in Emacs now is precisely
what those native apps do. Why don't you believe me?
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, (continued)
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, David Kastrup, 2010/06/13
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Chong Yidong, 2010/06/11
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Lennart Borgman, 2010/06/11
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, W Dan Meyer, 2010/06/11
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Miles Bader, 2010/06/12
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/06/12
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Lennart Borgman, 2010/06/12
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p,
Eli Zaretskii <=
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, James Cloos, 2010/06/12
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/06/12
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, James Cloos, 2010/06/12
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Eli Zaretskii, 2010/06/12
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, James Cloos, 2010/06/12
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Stefan Monnier, 2010/06/12
- Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p, Andreas Schwab, 2010/06/12
- Current head won't build, Randal L. Schwartz, 2010/06/12
- Re: Current head won't build, Chong Yidong, 2010/06/12
- Re: Current head won't build, Randal L. Schwartz, 2010/06/12