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Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p

From: Eli Zaretskii
Subject: Re: arrow keys vs. C-f/b/n/p
Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2010 13:48:48 +0300

> From: Lennart Borgman <address@hidden>
> Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:04:28 +0200
> Cc: Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden>, David Kastrup <address@hidden>,
>       James Cloos <address@hidden>, address@hidden
> Looking around on the internet (not being a bidi reader) it seems to
> me that it is mostly a programming mistake to let the arrow keys
> change direction. (Somehow maybe also from a beginners perspective the
> right arrow might mean "go forward".) However for someone editing
> texts in some way this is awkward IMO. Here are some links:

I know all these references, and have a few more.  I agree that it
would be nice to have all the features they preach about.  People are
welcome to step forward and implement them; I even made a point of
implementing some infrastructure to support these features.

I'm not saying that logical-order motion is the only mode we should
have.  I'm saying that it's the absolute minimum, without which Emacs
would be unusable with bidirectional text.  And that is why I
implemented them -- to have Emacs minimally usable for editing
bidirectional scripts.

> - http://wiki.sibawayhi.org/keyboard - READING IS NOT CURSORING!

The author of this page is an enthusiastic users of the current Emacs,
so I guess practice is not necessarily so black-and-white as it

> - http://www.qsm.co.il/Hebrew/logicUI22.htm - "The logical approach is
> sometimes preferred by implementors, mostly because its implementation
> is easier.

"Easier" my foot!  Believe me, it's not at all easy in Emacs, with all
its advanced display features.

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