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Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness
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Tom Lord |
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Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness |
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Tue, 26 Aug 2003 19:42:33 -0700 (PDT) |
> From: Miles Bader <address@hidden>
> Adam Sampson <address@hidden> writes:
> > On a tangent, all the proposals I've seen so far have "arch" in the
> > name -- wouldn't unique tags be useful for other version control
> > systems too, and thus be worth designing as a cross-system standard?
> Yeah, that occured to me too, though it's probably not a pressing
> concern; as far as I know only arch currently uses file-embedded unique
> ids (other systems like bitkeeper seem to use the equivalent of arch's
> `external' tags),
The original architectural conception here is of inventory being
reasonably (and usefully) separable from the rest; mkpatch/dopatch
being similarly factorable-outable (but layered on inventory, of
course); and then patch-logs, the namespace, and the core archive
protocol being a layer on that.
I'm still there, really. The only new thing is that I think the
archive protocol can be generalized for "smart servers" based on
namespace hacks -- still in a transport-indepdendent way.
> and it seems easy enough to upgrade arch later to
> support both if a `standard' name/syntax is created.
Take it easy with that stuff, please.
> You're right though, it might make sense to approach other
> source-control projects and ask if they want to do do this.
Please feel free to try. Perhaps a different "From:" line and
rhetorical style will lead to different results.
> Taglines
> seem like one of the easiest of arch's kewl features for others to
> implement... Having support in other systems would offer tangible
> benefits for both users and for arch, and it would probably make it
> easier to get such tags added to the canonical sources of common source
> bases.*
Which "others" do you have in mind? Subversion seems to embrace
intertwingling as a design philosophy.
> [It's an obvious advantage for users because it would make importing
> sources much smoother and make it easier to move sources between
> different SCSs; it's an advantage for arch because it would make it
> easier for people to try arch out, and so presumably arch's other
> advantages would come to the fore.]
Damn straight.
> * For instance, I've wondered what would happen if I tried to get
> arch-id: lines added to Linus's source tree -- assuming it was OK with
> Linus, would McVoy go apeshit and threaten to withdraw bitkeeper
> support completely ("you're supporting a competing SCS -- no bitkeeper
> for you!")? If he did, what would Linus's reaction be?
Should I be double-dog-daring you at this point?
> OTOH, if bitkeeper were able to use embedded tags itself, it would
> only make sense to use a `standard' format for them, and surely even
> Larry could stomach that...
As far as I know, I'm killfiled by him.
-t
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness, (continued)
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness, Jonathan Walther, 2003/08/24
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness, Douglas Philips, 2003/08/24
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness, Miles Bader, 2003/08/24
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness, Jan Hudec, 2003/08/25
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness, Miles Bader, 2003/08/25
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness, Jonathan Walther, 2003/08/26
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness, Miles Bader, 2003/08/26
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness, Adam Sampson, 2003/08/26
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness, Tom Lord, 2003/08/26
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness, Miles Bader, 2003/08/26
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness,
Tom Lord <=
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness, Miles Bader, 2003/08/26
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness, Tom Lord, 2003/08/27
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness, Jason McCarty, 2003/08/27
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness, Miles Bader, 2003/08/27
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness, Maksim Lin, 2003/08/28
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness, Robert Anderson, 2003/08/28
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness, Zack Brown, 2003/08/28
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness, Jason McCarty, 2003/08/28
- [Gnu-arch-users] file and directory restrictions, Zack Brown, 2003/08/28
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: tagline robustness, Miles Bader, 2003/08/28