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[Gnu-arch-users] Inertia on lkml?

From: Adam Spiers
Subject: [Gnu-arch-users] Inertia on lkml?
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 12:23:06 +0100
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Pau Aliagas (address@hidden) wrote:
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 09:56:52 +0200 (CEST)
> From: Pau Aliagas <address@hidden>
> To: lkml <address@hidden>
> Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <address@hidden>
> Subject: Re: log-buf-len dynamic
> On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > Use CVS and be happy. But don't complain to others that have needs that 
> > CVS simply can't fill. 
> > ....
> > Indeed. That's pretty much all non-distributed stuff is useful for, from
> > where I'm stading.  Small projects with a few developers and a lot of
> > read-only stuff. And even there the developers will bitch about the
> > limitations.
> > 
> > Sure, SVN makes branches cheaper, but you still have to work with them
> > like under CVS, ie merging is a total disaster. And you still can't make 
> > it your private repository.
> No flame wars intended, but arch does this and more. See:
> Distributed, complex merging, easy branches... and even a linux repository
> from 0.1, not yet in the detail of the current cvs or bk, but easyly
> achievable if anyone is interested in spending the time to import it.

Thank you Pau for helping promote awareness of arch on lkml.  I find
it amazing that I am *still* seeing quotes like this (seen in the
latest news item on, from earlier on in the same thread
which Pau replied to):

    From: Linus Torvalds
    To: Andrea Arcangeli
    Subject: Re: log-buf-len dynamic
    Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:53:32 -0700 (PDT)

    On Tue, 23 Sep 2003, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
    > if Marcelo would be using open source code to exports the
    > patchsets in his tree, we could fix it to add the email address
    > along the name in the checkin logs metadata, to avoid this sort
    > of mistakes.

    Andrea - please just shut up. 

    Until you can point to anything even _remotely_ as good as
    BitKeeper, there's no point in just continually trying to start a

How is it that such brilliantly clever guys such as Linus and Andrea
seem *so* slow on the uptake when it comes to arch?  What am I
missing?  It's not as if arch hasn't been mentioned many many times on
lkml already ...

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