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Re: Install Concept


From: Filip Brcic
Subject: Re: Install Concept
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 15:50:07 +0100
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Дана Wednesday 08 February 2006 11:20, Michael Banck је написао(ла):
> On Tue, Feb 07, 2006 at 08:32:46PM +0100, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
> >    In the past, the Debian installer was completely unusable for me.
> >    I could not even figure out how to start it,
>
> You put the CD into the drive and boot.

Debian Installer for GNU/Hurd, for example, never worked well. For some reason 
they never did install the grub into the mbr (which is not hurd specific 
operation). The other problem with debian-installer for hurd is that it 
required user to manualy start /native-install (twice) to bootstrap the 
system. I do understand that the stuff that native-install does could not 
have been done using linux live cd. But they could have put it into some init 
script so that the users don't have to think about that. For example, see 
AMS's installation. It doesn't have any installer, but it is very user 
friendly, and you could easily build an install CD (linux, hurd, *bsd, or 
even windows based if there were mkfs.ext2 on windows) that would partition 
the drive, install his stage1 of gnu/hurd and then just reboot and everything 
is done automaticly.

> >    let alone actually install anything.  There was zero documentation
> >    or help available.  I hope it has vastly improved since then.
> >
> > Agreed.  I recently installed Debian GNU/Linux on a machine (using the
> > a new installer), and it wasn't that much better.
>
> Maybe you installed the wrong version then, or didn't find the prominent
> link to the installation manual at http://www.debian.org.

I don't think that there should be an installation manual. Or at least, I 
don't believe that the installation manual should be needed to install the 
system...

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