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bar numbers colliding the staff braces


From: Heikki Johannes Junes
Subject: bar numbers colliding the staff braces
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:08:05 +0200 (EET)

Is there a really beautiful solution for aligning both bar numbers in the
beginning and in the middle of a staff? If one adds padding for the bar
number in the beginning of the staff, the vertically aligned bar numbers
in the middle of the staff are raised a bit too far from the staff --
they are a bit 'detached' from the staff.

Yes, this colliding was mentioned in the refdoc, but no solution for
this basic typografical problem was given. This problem raises if one
uses orchestral/choir-brackets ('[', not '{') for staffs -- even the
default bar numbering collides, since it does not see '['.

Simple figure of colliding bar number and an orchestral brace:

1                               5
|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
\

Detaching takes place once one tries to prevent colliding:


1                               5
/
|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|-------|
\

It is a pity that one cannot use orchestral braces and these bar numbers
properly. But this has to do something with the type of the braces --
they are wider than piano braces. I raised this question because this
was the reason to omit numbering.

It would be nice if there were a beatiful (and automated) typografical
solution for this problem -- except changing the type of the slurs or
omitting the bar numbers either in the middle or in the beginning of the
staff.

So far, LilyPond recognizes this feature as a bbug .. but maybe somebody
has seen a way to do this numbering beatifully -- typeset those silly,
tiny numbers -- which can be at regular (5) intervals.

Greetings,

Heikki Junes



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