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Re: Macro for(UP_and_DOWN) and 3 similar. (issue 2491) (issue 6109046)
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Graham Percival |
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Re: Macro for(UP_and_DOWN) and 3 similar. (issue 2491) (issue 6109046) |
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Thu, 26 Apr 2012 06:28:42 +0100 |
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On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 03:14:33PM +0200, Łukasz Czerwiński wrote:
> I know that this is not a very positive message, but I am trying
> to save you yet more anguish. Â The lilypond project currently does
> not even function smoothly between senior developers with more
> than 100 commits each; there is very little chance for a new
> contributor to have a smooth and pleasant time helping us.
>
> Oh, I didn't know about that. I'm reading some Lilypond mails and they
> made me the impression that you *urge* new contributors.
Some people encourage new contributors. I encourage new
contributors who want to work on administrative tasks. I try to
discourage new programmers, precisely because they almost always
end up in situations like yours.
> By the way, Janek stated in the mail regarding GSoC in February:
>
> Why is your organization applying to participate in Google Summer of
> Code 2012? What do you hope to gain by participating?
>   Most importantly: more contributors
That's because Janek is wrong.
Last January, I warned him that he should not try to recruit any
new programmers unless he was willing to mentor them because it is
very difficult for new programmers to get started. I think you
have seen that my prediction was correct.
> I don't understand what's not working smoothly between senior
> developers. Could you describe in a pair of sentences? Is it a
> situation without a solution?
Well, right now we have nobody running the automated tests to
check that new patches are ok. So there will be no patches
accepted to lilypond.
- Graham
- Re: Macro for(UP_and_DOWN) and 3 similar. (issue 2491) (issue 6109046), (continued)
- Re: Macro for(UP_and_DOWN) and 3 similar. (issue 2491) (issue 6109046), Graham Percival, 2012/04/25
- Re: Macro for(UP_and_DOWN) and 3 similar. (issue 2491) (issue 6109046), Łukasz Czerwiński, 2012/04/25
- Re: Macro for(UP_and_DOWN) and 3 similar. (issue 2491) (issue 6109046),
Graham Percival <=
- Re: Macro for(UP_and_DOWN) and 3 similar. (issue 2491) (issue 6109046), address@hidden, 2012/04/26
- Re: Macro for(UP_and_DOWN) and 3 similar. (issue 2491) (issue 6109046), James, 2012/04/26
- Re: Macro for(UP_and_DOWN) and 3 similar. (issue 2491) (issue 6109046), address@hidden, 2012/04/26
- Re: Macro for(UP_and_DOWN) and 3 similar. (issue 2491) (issue 6109046), David Kastrup, 2012/04/26
- Re: Macro for(UP_and_DOWN) and 3 similar. (issue 2491) (issue 6109046), James, 2012/04/26
- Re: Macro for(UP_and_DOWN) and 3 similar. (issue 2491) (issue 6109046), address@hidden, 2012/04/27
- Re: Macro for(UP_and_DOWN) and 3 similar. (issue 2491) (issue 6109046), Phil Holmes, 2012/04/27
- Re: Macro for(UP_and_DOWN) and 3 similar. (issue 2491) (issue 6109046), James, 2012/04/27
- Re: Macro for(UP_and_DOWN) and 3 similar. (issue 2491) (issue 6109046), Phil Holmes, 2012/04/27
- Re: Macro for(UP_and_DOWN) and 3 similar. (issue 2491) (issue 6109046), Łukasz Czerwiński, 2012/04/28