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Re: bug in german manual


From: Blöchl Bernhard
Subject: Re: bug in german manual
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:01:51 +0200
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Am 17.08.2015 22:59, schrieb Urs Liska:
Am 17.08.2015 um 20:50 schrieb Blöchl Bernhard:
Am 17.08.2015 20:20, schrieb David Kastrup:
Federico Bruni <address@hidden> writes:


Il giorno lun 17 ago 2015 alle 18:16, BB <address@hidden>
ha scritto:
http://www.lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation-big-page.de.html#retrograde


in Chapter
1.2 Rhythmus

...
Andere rhythmische Aufteilungen

Triolen und andere rhythmische Aufteilungen werden aus einem
musikalischen Ausdruck erstellt, indem dessen Tondauern mit einem
Bruch multipliziert werden.

\times Bruch musikalischer Ausdruck

Must read  \tuplet instead of \times


German translation is not up-to-date, but just yesterday a person
volunteered for working on it.
So hopefully this will be fixed.


I'm afraid the text is quite correct. It's just not overly helpful as
the examples accompanying it have been automatically converted into
using \tuplet rather than \times.

Just changing \times to \tuplet would render the description wrong:
indeed this requires a retranslation of the new English text.


I do not understand your mail and I am fundamentally confused!

The original post is right, the German translation has not been updated
and must be corrected.


Anyway, I hope you allow me to use
\tuplet fraction { music }
instead of
\times fraction { music }
for what the english and americans call
"tuplets" ?


There has been a change or rather an extension to the syntax in one of
the more recent versions so now you can write, say, a triplet with

\tuplet 3/2 { c4 c c }

which is closer to a "natural" understanding than the earlier

\times 2/3 { c4 c c }

Today both ways are "correct", but the \tuplet syntax is the recommended
way to express tuplets nowadays.

So while technically the current text in the manual is not "wrong" it is
outdated and especially doesn't match the following example.

HTH
Urs


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Thanks for clarifying my confusion. As long as I used lilypond I always used \tuplet and argue that I did not even know that \times was/is a possible alternative.

\time and \times are very close and so - I think - dangerous and error-prone. I think to remember I did a misspelling only once as strting with lilypond in the past? And had trouble. Eliminated that off my memory.

Thanks



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