Re: [Pan-users] [OT] Statistical word analysis?

[Aristotle]

James,

I think that is totally fair.  I was flamed in a bad way once time on a
local Linux discussion group regarding downloads of ADSL providers (some
worked for and ran one and other ISPs so they were quite defensive).  I
suggested that unless it is unmetred - it's defeats the purpose and then
all hell broke loose about greedy leechers vs stingy ISPs etc.

I think we all settled on a tentative agreement about the fairness of
unmetred local access - such as internal game network (non Internet
connected) and news servers (drool).

I agree that the whole Internet V4 (?) protocol is just totally
insufficient for common demands (NTP is a unrelated protocol - I don't
know how it contributes to net congestion - I have heard it does in a
big way though).  I think IP6 is meant to address this by allowing
broadcasting of common data (ie - multimedia) and other improvements.

People should then discouraged from cutting sick on the Net - but I mean
REALLY cutting sick.  If I can't listen to audio and watch video I am
not interested.  My idea of cutting sick is say when it is used for more
than a reasonable amount of high bandwidth applications simultaneously
or excessively shared. One person should be allowed to do all they need
or want to do - I think that is reasonable.

Or if I ran my own news server (ha ha) - that would really blow the
link.

I think broadband, datacasting, digital TV is all in a state of flux at
the moment.  Most ISPs compete on plan configuration rather than actual
price - the world over?  But governments and corporations (read:
Micro$oft) are pushing for broadband in the consumer market.

I find that so ironic - Micro$oft lobby governments so that we can all
use their products and spend more money - and I use the benefits of
their efforts and subsidisation to download linux distributions. Ha ha.

Probably the first time ever that I would consider sending a Thank You
letter to Uncle Bill ;-)

On Fri, 2002-04-12 at 23:00, James Hawtin wrote:
> On 12 Apr 2002, Aristotle wrote:
> 
> > That's criminal!!!!!!
> >
> > In Australia we actually have - I kid you not - a 'whopping' 300Mb
> > allowance on some ADSL accounts with Telstra!!!!  What a joke!
> > Broadband has been a complete flop in this country.
> >
> > Imagine that - "Well kids - we have a whopping 20 seconds of live Net
> > video a month - I think we got our $70 / month worth!!!"  Get real
> >
> > 10GB - I drool over that!!!
> >
> > Unlimited?!?!?!?!?!?!
> >
> > Where are you and how do I get citizenship????
> >
> 
> Here in the UK we are capped as to how much we can download (as far as
> I know, last read the AUP a couple of weeks ago), but we are capped as to
> how fast 64K down 8K up. (figures in Bytes not bits). i think i
> downloaded about 20 Gig last month. My provider seems to want to attract
> Gamers here, so kind of has a don't ask don't tell policy! I alway did
> wonder why they carried many binary groups that obviously only have
> content that breaks there AUP. I guess they figure its better people
> download from their server than fill up the netlinks to other providers.
> 
> Its quite nice, they tolerate linux and home LANs in the same matter, so
> long as you don't cause hassle you can have have one. If you do you can't!
> 
> James
> 
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