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Re: address@hidden: Re: Type-in programs using BASH]


From: Ryan Cunningham
Subject: Re: address@hidden: Re: Type-in programs using BASH]
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 06:11:37 -0800

And by "type-in programs" in the message to which I am replying, I mean those 
published in source code form.

-- 
Sent from my iPod

> On Jan 26, 2015, at 10:19 PM, Ryan Cunningham <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> These type-in programs can actually generate quicker rises in popularity of 
> the FSF and in total market share of GNU/Linux distributions as more and more 
> people are introduced by such programs (or the experience of typing them) to 
> the concept of free and open-source software. I mean, GNU/Linux's market 
> share could potentially beat Microsoft Windows' (which is actually what the 
> FSF hopes will happen, with "Upgrade from Windows 8").
> 
> -- 
> Sent from my iPod
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Ryan Cunningham <address@hidden> wrote:
>> 
>> I would also like the discussion on the GCC mailing list to end. The 
>> discussion on /source/ code, however, should remain alive and well.
>> 
>> Sorry for all the confusion.
>> 
>> And by "type-in programs", I don't mean example programs like "Hello world" 
>> programs. I mean real programs with real purpose.
>> 
>> Programs written by freelance authors that program for a living, to 
>> (hopefully) find a user base among even the newest of GNU/Linux users.
>> 
>> One day we'll be able to type in programs like these that are encoded in 
>> machine code. But that day is not now. For portability reasons, I'd prefer 
>> source code for print publication.
>> 
>> But, in case we ever reach that day, I won't modify my proposed GPL addendum 
>> on this topic.
>> 
>> This discussion is on a Bash mailing list, but for the same reason as above, 
>> it could be possible that a type-in program is published in a source code 
>> language, like C, that /compiles/ into machine language. In that case, it 
>> would have to be typed into a text editor instead of a here-document (unless 
>> your compiler supports reading input from here-documents).
>> 
>> As I pointed out to Mr. Stallman, I'd like to encourage everyone who reads 
>> these messages to spread the word about the idea.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Sent from my iPod
>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2015, at 3:50 PM, Ryan Cunningham <address@hidden> wrote:
>>> 
>>> No, no, not on the Internet---I mean in a paper magazine, which Internet 
>>> users can also get.
>>> 
>>> I'd like the machine code discussion to end.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>> 
>>> On Jan 26, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Eduardo A. Bustamante López <address@hidden> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> I am proposing this as a possible alternative or complement to publication
>>>>> on the Internet to take into account those without Internet access, though
>>>>> those *with* Internet access also get the benefit.
>>>> So you want to publish stuff on the Internet for people that don't have 
>>>> access
>>>> to the Internet? Right.
>>>> 
>>>> This all sounds like a waste of time. Don't type machine code. Also, in the
>>>> remote case that people will type machine code into their terminal, what 
>>>> does
>>>> heredocs have to do with that? Bash doesn't understand machine code.



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