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Re: Emacs 21.1 MORE.STUFF buglets and suggestions

From: Alex Schroeder
Subject: Re: Emacs 21.1 MORE.STUFF buglets and suggestions
Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 22:12:31 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) Emacs/21.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu)

"Stefan Monnier" <monnier+gnu.emacs.bug/news/@RUM.cs.yale.edu> writes:

> For that reason I think that the wiki approach where the users of
> the resource can maintain it themselves is much more promising.
> What about copying the Emacs Lisp List to emacswiki so anybody
> can update it ?

I have a wikified emacs lisp list on the Emacs Wiki; I asked Stephen
Eglen about his thoughts and he said:

>  From: Stephen Eglen
>  Subject: ELL and the Emacs Wiki
>  To: address@hidden
>  Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 11:15:28 -0500 (CDT)
> > I played around with ell.el and wrote a little wikify-ell.el that
> > will download the ELL and create a Wiki page from that.  I then took
> > that page and pasted it into the Emacs Wiki.
> > It is available here:
> > http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WikifiedEmacsLispList
> > That shows, I think, that in principle, the ELL could be maintained
> > on the Wiki.  The question is, of course, wether that would be a
> > good thing -- and wether you would continue to do most of the
> > maintaining.  :) The Wiki at least promises the hope that eventually
> > other people will start maintaining pages as well.  The downside is
> > that currently it is rather difficult to edit compared to local
> > files.  Especially if it is such a large dokument as the
> > WikifiedEmacsLispList.  That problem could be solved by splitting
> > the WikifiedEmacsLispList up into several pages.
> Hi Alex, thanks for that link.  I'm afraid my knowledge of Wiki is
> zero! 
> I'm happy to continue updating the ELL, after all I probably receive
> just 2-3 emails a week suggesting changes/broken links, so it is not
> such a huge load for me at the moment.  Perhaps the wiki would be
> better suited if the ELL was more rapidly changing, but it seems
> pretty slow-changing at the moment.
> stephen

So I think at the moment, nothing needs to be done.  For the small
number of people without their own webspace: If the code is small
(less than 30k for example), they can just paste it into a wiki page
on the Emacs Wiki.

I'd love to see the Emacs Wiki used by more people.  The entire page
database is downloadable, so I think the knowhow accumulated is not at
risk of getting lost should I just leave without a word -- people
could always download backups and add a new Emacs Wiki.  I didn't
spend much time thinking on the licencing terms of the wiki content.
Perhaps that needs adapting in order to make it "official".

The wiki provides something the ELL does not: Code sniplets, setup
information, example usages, links to related info.  Sometimes it
duplicates the FAQ, the manual, and the info in the lisp file's
commentary section.


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