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bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct
From: |
Andrew Kurn |
Subject: |
bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct |
Date: |
Wed, 4 Jul 2018 00:49:22 -0700 |
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Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) |
Eli wrote:
> I think we support both those who share this opinion and
> those who don't. It sounds like you want to set
> scroll-bar-adjust-thumb-portion to nil.
Yes!! This is the answer I've been looking for, how to
disable the feature.
Many thanks.
. . . and have you got any idea why the author used 'thumb'
in the name? I suppose who the author is is lost in the
mists of time.
[and see below]
On Tue 3 Jul 2018 22:13 -0700, Mike Kupfer wrote:
> Andrew Kurn wrote:
>
> > Anyhow, my contention is that, since the whole buffer is on display,
> > the scroll bar should extend over the whole window. The length of the
> > scroll bar, as a fraction of the window height, is supposed to be the
> > fraction of the buffer on display. Its top is the character (line,
> > usually) where the display starts. Its bottom is where it stops.
>
> That's what I would expect, too. The current behavior was explained to
> me as deliberate, to account for differences in scrolling behavior when
> comparing Emacs to GTK apps like gedit. That is, when you get to the
> end of a file in gedit, the last line of the file is at the bottom of
> the window. If you get to the bottom of the file and continue to press
> PgDown or the down arrow key, gedit just beeps at you.
As the queen says, we never notice what other women are wearing.
Comparing emacs and gedit . . .
>
> With Emacs, though, it is possible, using PgDown or C-v, to scroll down
> so that the last line of the file appears higher up in the window,
> possibly even at the very top of the window.
>
> There does seem to be an inconsistency between the scrollbar and
> scrolling using keypresses. For example, in the attached screenshot, if
> I try to scroll using PgDown, C-v, or down arrow, I get an "End of
> buffer" error. Yet I can scroll down using the down-stepper on the
> scrollbar. And if I drag the scrollbar marker down as far as it will
> go, the text scrolls off the top, leaving me with a blank window.
>
> Personally, I find the gap below the scrollbar marker disorienting; I
> can't trust the scrollbar to show me when I'm at the end of the file.
> This is annoying enough that I try to avoid Emacs+GTK.
>
> mike
Goodness! Don't throw out the baby with the bath-water. With
its faults, emacs is still emacs.
I almost said "with all its faults," but, really, I find so few
problems with emacs that even such a minor one as this one (now
understood not to be a bug at all) seems worth reporting.
Andrew
- bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct, (continued)
- bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct, Mike Kupfer, 2018/07/09
- bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct, martin rudalics, 2018/07/10
- bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct, Mike Kupfer, 2018/07/14
- bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct, martin rudalics, 2018/07/14
- bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct, Mike Kupfer, 2018/07/20
- bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct, martin rudalics, 2018/07/21
- bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct, Mike Kupfer, 2018/07/14
- bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct, Mike Kupfer, 2018/07/06
- bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct, Robert Pluim, 2018/07/06
- bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct, martin rudalics, 2018/07/07
- bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct,
Andrew Kurn <=
- bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct, Stephen Berman, 2018/07/04
- bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct, Noam Postavsky, 2018/07/04
- bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct, Mike Kupfer, 2018/07/04
bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct, Andrew Kurn, 2018/07/10
- bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct, Eli Zaretskii, 2018/07/10
- bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct, Andrew Kurn, 2018/07/12
- bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct, Eli Zaretskii, 2018/07/12
- bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct, Stephen Berman, 2018/07/12
- bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct, Eli Zaretskii, 2018/07/12
- bug#32002: 24.4; Scroll bar start, end not correct, Mike Kupfer, 2018/07/14