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bug#40697: 25.3; sort-lines not accepting reverse parameter


From: Roland Hughes
Subject: bug#40697: 25.3; sort-lines not accepting reverse parameter
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 14:48:19 -0500
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On 4/18/20 2:27 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
From: Roland Hughes <roland@logikalsolutions.com>
Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 13:45:17 -0500
Cc: 40697@debbugs.gnu.org

Okay, I was not descriptive enough.

In interactive mode you cannot enter the argument but according to the
documentation I should be able to. To enter an argument I would have to
be able to use the space bar after entering sort-lines. When I try using
the spacebar I get [SoleCompletion] and no space. Cannot enter argument.
I modified the doc string to say this instead:

   Sort lines in region alphabetically; REVERSE non-nil means descending order.
   Interactively, REVERSE is the prefix argument, and BEG and END are the 
region.
   Called from a program, there are three arguments:
   REVERSE (non-nil means reverse order), BEG and END (region to sort).
   The variable ‘sort-fold-case’ determines whether alphabetic case affects
   the sort order.

Does this modified doc string resolve the issue you had?

No, the wiki page does.

https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/Sorting

The wording in the help text is rather expert friendly. A user coming in cold to Emacs is going to interpret "prefix argument" as

[GOLD]-7 REVERSE sort-lines [RETURN]

I've been getting back into Emacs because I was getting back into COBOL and working with GNUCOBOL. Emacs is currently as close to an IDE as their is until one of the 3.x versions of GNUCOBOL is officially released. It will work with a few more then. EDT on GUI Emacs makes the editor vastly more accessible to anyone who has used EDT, LSE, JED (with EDT keypad enabled) and others than mirror the EDT keypad.

Of course, any time I have to deep dive to get into something I tend to write a book about it.

https://www.theminimumyouneedtoknow.com/app_book.html

The GUI Emacs book focusing on using EDT keypad is almost complete. Sort was the last topic before creating cover art, tagging indexes, and sending off for first round edit.

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