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Re: Down with smcup!
Re: Down with smcup!
Thu, 04 Apr 2002 08:43:56 +0200
Thomas Dickey wrote:
> > I've gotten used to having a private TERMINFO entry, by infocmp()ing the
> > standard one and removing smcup/rmcup. But in the latest cygwin software
> > (which is - otherwise - incredibly wonderful) when I remove the ..cup
> > attributes,
> > less() and vi() start making all kinds of noise that my terminal emulation
> > is
> > broken.
> Reading less' source, I don't see where it would complain.
> For "vi", I suppose it may depend on the implementation.
> So again - more information is needed to see what you're complaining about.
> Thomas E. Dickey <address@hidden> <address@hidden>
I'm pretty sure that its curses that is the issue: I get the same message from
and vim(). In fact, it doesn't only *complain* that my terminal emulation is
it jetisons my TERM, gives me a list of default alternatives and then selects
Another contributor, address@hidden, suggested properly that Cygwin is
a volunteers project, which I respect, but this change seems to be an explicit
policy decision which reflects the anti-AT&T (yes, I can't help myself: emacs,
tar, and csh instead of vi, cpio, and ksh) of certain big cats at GNU (whose
initials are RS). Maybe I'm slipping into deranged megalomaniac thinking,
but it's just that with bash, GNU had done so much good in patching up the
old rivalries, that I was thinking we were prepared for the clash with
Or let me put it another way. Everytime I use linux or cygwin, I tell myself
world simply has to understand that this is better than the garbage that
puts out. But when I, with 20 years of Unix experience, can't get my terminal
to behave the way I want to, then I can't expect to be able to convince my
that MSwindows is for amateurs.
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Re: Down with smcup!, DJ Delorie, 2002/04/03