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Re: [Bug-gnubg] Computer Olympiad

From: Joseph Heled
Subject: Re: [Bug-gnubg] Computer Olympiad
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 09:05:04 +1200

Hi Frank,

On 6/21/07, Frank Berger <address@hidden> wrote:
Hi Joseph,

> I am sure this Olympiad thingy is real fun,
yes it is. Especially due to Nardy sparkling humor we had a lot of
good laughs. And there are a lot of programms there and a lot of
events especially for chess and GO at other places. I feel it would
be a shame if BG would't be there, although the number of attending
programms is not satisfying. I personally would much prefer 6-8
programms even if this means more time and a smaller prob to win.

> but I still hope that at
> that day and age we can organize a serious and meaningful match
> between the two, if a match is what we want.
I guess under the existing circumstances this is already pretty good
for a live event. I guess only a few can afford to spend more then
3-4 days including the travel for a fun event. Naturally it doesn't
mean anything for judging which bot is better (at least not if the
difference is so small as it is between BGB and GNU).

A longer series of matches is naturally much better suited for that.
There was a longer series just finished and I'm sure that the results
will be published in the next few days. I guess at least some people
will be astonished.... :)

This is a cryptic remark. longer series of what?

> I suspect that it would be close to impossible to determine which is
> better in a match, ans even a 100 difference in rating may require
> tens of thousand of matches if not more.
I guess with a 100 points it will take less matches (and I'm too lazy
to take the Fibs-calculator for that right now), but I'm pretty sure
that BGB, Gnu and S4 have less than 20 rating points between best and
worst so we need a pretty large number for a statistical result. The
rollout I mentioned above started in November and was on 2-3 PC so
besides the benchmark from Michaal Depreli it will be the most
significant test so far.

> But we can make a start, assuming BGBlitz can be driven by a command
> line/script, and arrange a running ongoing match. I can even find now
> some time on the university machines, but very limited time as I am
> consumed in my PhD.
I think Dueller is already well suited. It talks to Gnu by CLI and to
BGB via socket (which is IMHO superior because it could run on a
different box) so anyone could do a long rollout (you don't need a
BGB licence for the dueller stuff)

Thanks, Frank. Does Dueller and BGB run on Linux. If I wanted to,
could I set an ongoing match?



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