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Re: spatial finder
From: |
Enrico Sersale |
Subject: |
Re: spatial finder |
Date: |
Wed, 16 Jun 2004 14:58:02 +0300 |
On 2004-06-16 13:29:12 +0300 Frederico Muñoz <fsmunoz@gesal.org> wrote:
> On 2004-06-16 11:09:07 +0100 Rogelio Serrano <rogelio@smsglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> On 2004-06-16 17:58:04 +0800 Nicolas Roard <nicolas@roard.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Le 16 juin 04, à 10:48, Enrico Sersale a écrit :
>>>
>>>> On 2004-06-16 05:44:34 +0300 Rogelio Serrano <rogelio@smsglobal.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Can we use the new gworkspace finder in spatial mode?
>>>>
>>>> What's that???
>>>
>>> my .02€:
>>>
>>> Something that works great with few files and shallow directories, and
>>> badly with plenty of files and deep directories. Eg, it's not that good
>>> for today computer's use.
>>>
>>> You just need to see the users response to the now by-default nautilus
>>> spatial mode.
>>>
>>> Workspace UI is much better suited to Unix use, imho.
>>>
>>
>> Im going to use berkeley db to store files or file paths and additional
>> file attributes in a flat namespace and use a spatial finder. Im going to
>> hide unix from the user.
>
> Altough hiding the filesystem from the user helps the usability of a spatial
> finder it is not dependent on one... GWorkspace can already do the same using
> the same mechanisms that NeXTSTEP (and I suppose Mac OSX) used: hidden
> directories and a new namespace. I'm looking right now at my finder window
> and in the root I have /Local, /System, /Network, /User and /Volumes. Add to
> this the icons for directories (.dir.tiff) and the underlying filesystem is
> hidden from the user.
>
> With this in mind I suppose that to make GWorkspace "spatial" one would set
> the default view to iconic and open a new dir in each clicked icon (and make
> sure that the new window remebers its atributes). I'm with Nicolas on this
> one however: I think that the default view of the Finder is more appropriate
> to today use of a computer and fits better with the Stepish paradigm. Having
> said that I don't see anything wrong in supporting alternate modes, as long
> as they are not the default.
At the beginning of this thread, you used the word "finder" meaning "file
viewer" and, having GW an other object named "finder", I totally missed the
point :-)
I didn't know that, now, that thing is named "spatial", but I've used the old
Mac Finder from '86 (Macintosh 512) and I can't say that I don't like it!
The idea that each object opens in its own window, a application window if the
object is a editable file and a finder window if it is a directory, remains,
for me, the best and easier to understand way to represent the file system.
And: a single click select a object, two clicks opens the object you selected.
Easy and natural.
Sayd this, I must say that, now, I'm using only the gworkspace browser; the
"spatial" view is, as I've said, the easier to understand, but, if you know
whath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/System.xsession" and this kind of things mean,
the browser is faster and more efficient.
Anyway, I think that you can already use GW in this way; it remembers all the
attributes of the opened windows so, if you keep all your windows in "Small
Icon" mode (no icons path but the paths menu that goes back till "/") and ctrl
double click on the folders to open a new window, you've got a "spatial" viewer
(if I'm not missing something else...).
> I must confess that I've red numerous articles about the spatial file
> managers and I'm one of those that "still don't get it"... they always go on
> and on on how it isn't only a matter of opening a new window for each opened
> component and remebering the attributes of that window, but in the end that's
> all I can actually see... all the talk about the folders being like objects,
> etc, maes some sense, but in the end it boils down to "each click opens a new
> window".
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Frederico Muñoz
- spatial finder, Rogelio Serrano, 2004/06/15
- Re: spatial finder, Enrico Sersale, 2004/06/16
- Re: spatial finder, Nicolas Roard, 2004/06/16
- Re: spatial finder, Rogelio Serrano, 2004/06/16
- Re: spatial finder, Frederico Muñoz, 2004/06/16
- Re: spatial finder, Rogelio Serrano, 2004/06/16
- Re: spatial finder, Nicolas Roard, 2004/06/16
- Re: spatial finder, Rogelio M . Serrano Jr ., 2004/06/16
- Re: spatial finder, Enrico Sersale, 2004/06/19
- Re: spatial finder, Michael Baehr, 2004/06/19
- Re: spatial finder,
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- Re: spatial finder, Björn Giesler, 2004/06/16
- Re: spatial finder, Rogelio Serrano, 2004/06/16
- Re: spatial finder, Pete French, 2004/06/16
- Re: spatial finder, Larry Coleman, 2004/06/16
- Re: spatial finder, Dennis Leeuw, 2004/06/16
- Re: spatial finder, Enrico Sersale, 2004/06/16
Re: spatial finder, Rogelio Serrano, 2004/06/16
Re: spatial finder, Sascha Erni, .rb, 2004/06/16