Re: Possible future Gorm name change

[Gregory John Casamento]

Richard,



--- Richard Fillion <rick@centrix.ca> wrote:

> Nice story, much respect to anyone who knows shit like that.
> 
> Unfortunately this is EXACTLY what's wrong with Gorm (or is it GORM  
> cause it's an acronym?) as a name.

It's usually written "Gorm", but it is an acronym for GNUstep Object
Relationship Modeller.

> "Bluetooth" _is_ a cool name.   
> Why?  Cause it's just a technology, and like ports on the back of  
> computers, it needs a name to distinguish it from other  
> technologies.  It's catchy, and there are only a few big computer  
> technologies for users to remember.  Bluetooth, Firewire, DVI, USB,  
> etc..
> 
> Saying "Gorm is fine cause Bluetooth has been successful as a name"  
> or even "GIMP" like was previously mentioned isn't doing yourselves a  
> favor.
> 
> GNUstep is _really_ freaking cool (I'm neutral about the name, I mean  
> the project).  You guys are in denial of two things though : A) Looks  
> matter, and B) Names matter.  I'm not even going to go into A) as  
> it's been argued to death.  Lets just look at names here.

I don't think anyone is in denial about looks anymore.  Also, since I posed the
question, I don't think we're in denial about names either.
 
> ProjectCenter : Beautiful name, gives you an idea of what this is.   
> You're managing some type of project with it.
> 
> Gorm, or should I say GNUstep Object Relationship Modeler.  I know  
> that acronyms are big in FOSS land, but honestly, this is an  
> abortion.  "GIMP" at least sounds funny.  A gorm, wtf is a gorm?

WTF is a GIMP?
   
> Sure it does more than building interfaces, but its main purpose,  
> what makes people want to begin using it, is designing GUIs for  
> GNUstep applications.  Heck even "Relation Modeler" would be a step  
> up if you ask me.  Interface Creator, anything really would be better  
> than Gorm.

Thanks for your input, I'll take it under consideration.

> Next up: *switches keyboard languages* Étoilé.  I'm french, and that  
> may technically be a word, but somehow I doubt that the people who  
> this is aimed towards are all french.  How is this pronounced in  
> english?

Just the same as it is in French. :)

> I'm pretty hard on the #gnustep people about both looks and names.   
> There's a reason for this.  I hold you guys to a higher standard than  
> I do GNOME and KDE stuff.  Why?  Cause there's already an amazingly  
> slick OpenStep implementation out there : Cocoa.  To me, GNUstep  
> isn't competing with GNOME and KDE, but with OS X.  Being open source  
> only buys you so much credit.  The rest you have to earn legitimately.
> 
> I'm gonna get roasted both on the ML and #gnustep, but that's fine.   
> It needed to be said, and since this thread started the day after I  
> got chewed out for saying "Steve Jobs would shoot himself in the face  
> before supporting an app with a name like Gorm", I feel somewhat  
> responsible.

You shouldn't.  This has been turning over in my head for a while.  

> Richard Fillion
> rick@centrix.ca

GJC

Gregory John Casamento 
-- Principal Consultant, Open Logic Corp. (A MD Corp.)
## Maintainer of Gorm (IB Equiv.) for GNUstep.