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Re: easiest way to start messing with gnustep again?


From: dan
Subject: Re: easiest way to start messing with gnustep again?
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:59:56 -0800 (PST)
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On Feb 14, 2:42 pm, Fred Kiefer <fredkie...@gmx.de> wrote:
> dan wrote:
> > I would like to mess around with gnustep again.
>
> > When i did it before (several years ago) there were daemons
> > to start, lots of stuff to build, and so on, but it looks like
> > now all i need is a debian system i just have to run
> > apt-get to build everything?  (This from looking at
> >http://wiki.gnustep.org/index.php/Platform:Linux.)
>
> > Is the right approach to run it virtually (vmware or maybe
> > some free equivalent)?
>
> > What would be ideal would be whatever the modern
> > equivalent of what simply gnustep was supposed to be,
> > i think.
>
> > Thanks in advance for any advice (including pointers
> > to faqs, or projects --- i've looked around, e.g., at
> >http://etoileos.com/, but i'm sort of uncertain and
> > i'd like a common path to tread on first).
>
> > My interest is in writing and rescuing some
> > old, old applications.
Hi Fred,

Thanks for your reply.

Actually, having a modern look is not so important to me.

I think, for example, that the floating, detachable menus from
the NeXT interface are better than the menu across the top
in OS X.  This is not to say that i don't like OS X, i mean,
the time machine is pretty awesome, and i like the fact that you
can hover your mouse over graphical elements and get
a message about them.  But i think that in some ways
NeXT was optimal, and most changes to it would make
it worse not better.

Anyhow, i will probably follow your advice.

The thing i remember having the most trouble with
GNUstep was setting up all those daemons and i hope
that by doing something in a vm i can make the process
a little easier.

dan


>
> Hi Dan,
>
> not sure what to tell you. Running GNUstep in a VM is fine, I do that
> for GNUstep on Windows and somewhere I also have an old virtual Ubuntu...
>
> Etoile surely has a more modern look than GNUstep itself, but you can
> change GNUstep's look easily via themes. Best you start of with just
> GNUstep and then decide whether you want to add anything on top of that.
>
> Start off with the packages and then move on to GNUstep from SVN and
> report back any problems you encounter.
>
> Fred



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