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Re: GNUstep @ FOSDEM 2010 6th and 7th February 2010

From: Tim Kack
Subject: Re: GNUstep @ FOSDEM 2010 6th and 7th February 2010
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:03:19 +0200

Hi all,

I am of course not even remotely close to the core dev group - but here
is something as an attendee I appreciated much:

The GDL2 (With Datamodeler and Gorm) presentation was excellent and very
If we could persuade someone to do a GSWeb/GDL2 (and/or SOPE)
presentation - that would be fantastic.
Also a session of interfacing with other languages/runtimes (I.e. JIGS).

Crossplatform sessions are also very interesting (like what Nikola did
last year) - especially if it is a sessions with an example, and the
'GNUStep introduction and Tutorial' session is perfect for this.

Some of this falls into the Etoile idea of course with its LanguageKit.
To really attract people I think that devroom is a necessity. 

Best regards,

On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 00:36 +0200, Lars Sonchocky-Helldorf wrote:
> Am 17.10.2009 um 10:21 schrieb address@hidden:
> >> I think we may just not ask for the stand this year... just ask for a
> >> dev-room. And only do a few talks (i.e., "State of GNUstep 2010") and
> >> keep hacking the rest of the time.
> >> Put posters pointing to the dev room in the hallway, and that's it!
> >
> > When looking at the recent growth of new members of this list, I think
> > there is a lot of more interest in GNUstep than before. Probably by
> > new iPhone developers who want to extend their newly gained experience
> > to GNUstep and want to learn what it is and how it can be used
> > uefully.
> currently only 4 people (including myself) have declared intend to  
> come to FOSDEM 2010. This is not to overwhelming if you ask me. Btw,  
> how about you, Nikolaus? Are you planning a FOSDEM presence? I am  
> also looking for some co-organisers for our FOSDEM presence. You did  
> already this two (or more?) times in the past so I'd appreciate your  
> experience here.
> >
> > Therefore, we should have some "Introduction to GNUstep & tutorial"
> > talk that is done only once every day (e.g. Sat 14:00, Sun 14:00).
> > This needs a DevRoom and is IMHO more important than a stand. And it
> > should be the only formal "presentation" we do. All other activities
> > can be code sprints, hacking, discussing, meeting, etc. We can also
> > set up a "demo & brochures" corner.
> I think a good mixture out of some presentations (I guess we need at  
> least some to get the dev-room and those make people from outside our  
> group interested in GNUstep) and the more GNUstep internal activities  
> (code sprints, hacking, discussing, meeting and such) would be the  
> best. All our talks and presentations last year were well visited,  
> our room was never empty. Of course the value of this is more on the  
> marketing side, making GNUstep known between developers (and those  
> are the people that write our future killer apps ;-)). But I am still  
> waiting for input here (also on the "GNUstep-internal" activities).
> >
> > And, lingering around all the day in a devroom may be more healthy
> > than manning a stand in the cold hallway with a air-conditioner in the
> > back :)
> That's true. Most people at the stand had only cursory interest while  
> people sitting in a dev-room talk/presentation/lecture could be  
> impressed much more sustainable.
> >
> > Nikolaus
> regards,
>       Lars
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