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Re: Comments on the website from people on twitter...


From: Austin Clow
Subject: Re: Comments on the website from people on twitter...
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2013 21:57:42 -0500

SORRY I FORGOT TO REPLY TO ALL

I like using GNUstep because it feels like NeXTSTEP/OpenSTEP, so I want to see GNUstep as an actual desktop. Not as something that runs on top of another desktop. I feel like that should be the primary focus, and then all the hooks for running on top of Windows, Unity, or w.e should be secondary

So, I wish GNUstep was a distribution of its own. It might be psychological, but I feel it is more often than not treated as an add-on. And I understand that it is because there is no native GNUstep web-browser, no document editing software, et cetera. So one can not simply use GNUstep as a desktop just yet. 

I spent the last 3 years working on my own IDE for Mac OS X (and programming language) that I have always intended to be ported to GNUstep. But it is a NO-GO. Because I spend more time trying to figure out how to get Clang, ObjC 2, and Cairo to work (by setting arguments and what not) — Which are absolutely required for what I am doing. I rèad there is support for ARC, but I haven't even started to investigate it on GNUstep. I feel like it is too much of a chore to figure out how to get it going. The Wiki should be cleaned up. Or just deleted and started form scratch. I am tired of the instructions that do not work, sometimes they just make me feel stupid. 

The non Clang/ObjC2 configurations should be dropped. (MY OPINION)

I haven't installed GNUstep from scratch in about three weeks - a month or so, and I haven't been following as closely as I used to. For all I know these issues have been solved. It really is about advertisement. 

As for what other people dream… I guess it is that GNUstep can run on everything — including Windows.

I am sure that people are reading this going: It is not that bad, I get it running all the time. It works fine. So I've kept out of it. What is easy for others is sometimes daunting for me. 


On Aug 8, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Gregory Casamento <greg.casamento@gmail.com> wrote:

Also, regarding the "Dream of GNUstep" if you could tell me what everyone else is dreaming it would be helpful.  Obviously all of us on GNUstep are not dreaming the same thing everyone else seems to be. 

I realize this question sounds sarcastic, but I'm being serious.  I very much want to know what people outside of this project want to see from GNUstep.

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