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Fwd: Re: AW: [Auth]Re - [Auth} A simple server-side authentication sc

From: Jeremy Petzold
Subject: Fwd: Re: AW: [Auth]Re - [Auth} A simple server-side authentication scheme
Date: 17 Jul 2001 07:36:48 -0700

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Subject: Re: AW: [Auth]Re - [Auth} A simple server-side authentication scheme
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From: Jeremy Petzold <address@hidden>
Cc: address@hidden
Date: 17 Jul 2001 07:35:58 PDT

I don't know about Norbert (though I suspect he will agree in some fashion) but 
you are probably the closest thing that we have to getting an immediate 
presence in the market. I would think that this would be a good 1.0 candidate 
(that may just be me though)

On Tue, 17 July 2001, "Carsten Kuckuk" wrote:

> Norbert,
> I still have to get aquainted to the ideas and thoughts of the others on
> this list.
> >> Because the ecommerce market is the one market that really
> >> matters, and Microsoft is targeting it aggressively.
> I disagree here. You are right in that this is where the money is, and that
> this is the field that MS is targeting, but money is irrelevant for a GNU
> project, and I don't think people should blindly follow others. By looking
> too much at Microsoft you allow them to control your thoughts and take away
> your time. When you enter the realm of VES, CIL, C#, etc. you have to spend
> weeks and weeks reading their specs, learning their language and
> abbreviations and in the end you see that all they did was just to copy
> Java, and make it incompatible to Java. I have implemented several compilers
> in the past decade, and reading their specs with this background makes it
> pretty obvious. So in the end they have lured you into wasting valuable
> weeks of your life by just reading their docs.
> Please take the time and visit
> and read David
> Gelernter's "The Second Coming - A Manifesto". In this text you'll learn
> about a different concept of virtual identity -- cyberbodies -- that has
> almost nothing to do with e-commerce but has the power to transform the
> Internet into something really useful. And this is what I was thinking of
> when I made my posts on the list here. It is immediately useful to all
> online users, implementable, and non-critical in such a way that initial
> errors would not lead to lawsuits.
> >> > If you stick with LAMP architecture on the server side, the system
> >> > can be rolled out right now on millions of servers.
> >> Please explain LAMP architecture, and how we can "roll out a
> >> system right now on millions of servers."  That sounds exciting.
> LAMP means Linux, Apache, MySQL and PHP. This is the standard web server
> architecture that hobyist can rent from ISPs for prices starting at USD 10
> per month. All my friends have one, I have one for myself, one for my wife,
> and one for the toastmasters club I'm a member of. They're ubiquitious. So
> if we can implement part of the system using the relational database MySQL
> for data storage, and write the access code in PHP we would have a small
> package that could be installed on almost every hobyists web server. The
> instructions would read: "Please log into your web server. Start mysql.
> Execute the following SQL statement: CREATE TABLE PROFILES( uid int, account
> varchar(100), pwd varchar(100), data varchar(200), primary key(uid)); Then
> create a directory /dotgnu under you HTML root. Copy the files
> putprofile.php and getprofile.php there." Every hobbyist can do this. And
> suddenly you have thousands, possibly millions of identity servers on the
> web. The clients making use of this data could be implemented as server
> plug-ins or as standalone Java applications, whatever people like. That's
> what I was thinking about. It would put an infrastructure into place very
> quickly, and more important: It would make the project known and immediately
> useful.
> Am I too far away from the goals of the other members of this list?
> Carsten Kuckuk <-- on digest
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