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[DotGNU]FWD: 4th/5th session summary

From: Gopal.V
Subject: [DotGNU]FWD: 4th/5th session summary
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 14:34:00 +0530
User-agent: Mutt/1.2.5i

S110011 wrote, me forwarded:

Hello again, I missed session 4, but was there for session 5.

Brandon Bremen (absurd or absurdhero) has provided us with logs, as well as 
writing a nice Java(TM) program to get rid of the crap that the BX irc client 
put in it. This time, we have logs for the whole thing :-)

Anyway, we kick off with Mark Peters (skeeter) and ^CareBear discussing the UI 
of PhpGroupWare. Norbert Bollow (nb) points out that webservices are not 
necessarily free of charge. Some stuff about pnetlib non-standard classes... 
then there's talk about the development environment under DG. Hype surrounding 
Mono (announced self-hosting compiler Jan3, actual: Mar7). nymia announces port 
of treecc to Win32. David Sugar (dyfet) and Bill Lance (bill_lance) chat about 
connections between SEE, DEE, VRS, and auth.

^CareBear announces "if anyone have any Microsoft .NET questions, or something 
similar you can ask me :)" and leaves his email address with the crew. Then 
talk about the virtues of Unix DE vs. IDE. psiXaos pleads with them to provide 
list of decisions made during this meeting :)

Rhys makes comment of the evening on Mono..."I'm not sure it really solves the 
main problem - we use mono's code and they don't use ours.  It isn't enough for 
them to throw their code out and say 'feel free to contribute'.  We are 
throwing code out as well - why aren't they using it?" in reference to Pablo 
Molaro's offer of the Mono C# compiler (mcs) to help with pnetlib development.

fitzix offers a decision for psiXaos to munch on..."HINT: EVERYONE HERE -- 
probable desire to focus on the hardware environments of its newly contributing 
companies. Talk of starting to contribute to pnetlib (HINT: see HACKING file!)

Rhys introduces Southern Storm Software, aka "Rhys, Inc". And then, as things 
are bound to do on #dotgnu, a bunch of chat about music appears, mixed with 
garbage collection architecture. nb changes nick to nb_very_tired.

There is some complaint about Linus comments about idealists, and chat about 
pnet releases. We start with Java, and eventually say that everyone should 
program with either a soldering iron or assembly. Long lull...

Nice chat about what the SEE is, with Barry Fitzgerald (fitzix) interrogating 
(HINT: compare to inetd). Some complaint about not sharing memory from me, and 
finally, Rhys forgets to check dependencies, so pnet compilation and hacking 
the build dominate the remainder of the session.

I will not be covering the next sessions, because it is 0213 a.m. here (2h13 
after session 5).

By golly, I'm beginning to think Linux really *is* the best thing since
sliced bread.
        -- Vance Petree, Virginia Power

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