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Re: Short explanation for & in key ! of dired

From: Miles Bader
Subject: Re: Short explanation for & in key ! of dired
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:30:50 +0900

address@hidden writes:
> & gimp RET
> I'd be happier! But, ok, thats my use-case, and I dont really know how
> other people use dired. 

That's exactly what I want too.  When backgrounding, I'm almost always
running some gui app; I do not care about stdout/stderr, and Emacs
clumsy handling of background processes (only one at a time unless you
fiddle with things) is pretty annoying.

The current behavior of backgrounding seems vaguely anacronistic, maybe
from a time when people didn't use a window system.

Incidentally, many gnome apps are extremely sloppy about their output --
if you run them from a terminal you get tons of random debugging junk
(which doesn't for the most part seem to reflect any observable
problem).  This is for standard released apps.  It seems that they are
expected to normally be run in an environment where such output is


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moving and parked, it devours urban land, leaving the buildings as mere
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