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Re: line-move-visual
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Bastien |
Subject: |
Re: line-move-visual |
Date: |
Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:26:19 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) |
Johan Myréen <address@hidden> writes:
> Could somebody please explain to me what the idea behind the new concept of
> "visual lines" in Emacs is?
Take your breath and deep into this discussion:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/101560
I also agree the default for `line-move-visual' should be nil.
Some other developers expressed their dislike about visual line
mode in many ways. See this recent comment on orgmode list:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/15224
> Emacs has always been a "line-oriented" editor, i.e. the buffer consists of
> logical lines. These lines can occasionally wrap so that they spill over to
> the next visual line, but the main concept is still the logical line. This
> has
> been the mindset of Emacs users since the dawn of time.
>
> I was shocked to find out that this doesn't seem to be true anymore: by
> default C-n and C-p do not move to the next and previous logical lines, but
> instead place the cursor on the next or previous visible line. I find this
> totally counterintuitive.
So do I.
IIRC we never had a vote about this issue - maybe it's time to have it.
> Yes, I know the old behaviour can be restored: after some digging I found out
> about the line-move-visual variable. Couldn't the default be nil instead of t?
>
> Please do not forget what Gnu Emacs stands for: Generally Not Used, Except by
> Middle-Aged Computer Scientists. With changes like this you risk alienating
> the few of us that are left.
Hey! Stay here. I hope we'll fix this.
--
Bastien
- line-move-visual, Johan Myréen, 2009/07/09
- Re: line-move-visual,
Bastien <=
- Re: line-move-visual, Miles Bader, 2009/07/10
- Re: line-move-visual, Bastien, 2009/07/10
- Re: line-move-visual, Kenichi Handa, 2009/07/10
- Re: line-move-visual, Bastien, 2009/07/10
- Re: line-move-visual, Alfred M. Szmidt, 2009/07/10
- Re: line-move-visual, Bastien, 2009/07/10
- Re: line-move-visual, Scot Becker, 2009/07/10
- Re: line-move-visual, Eli Zaretskii, 2009/07/10
- Re: line-move-visual, Lennart Borgman, 2009/07/10
- Re: line-move-visual, Bastien, 2009/07/10