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Re: Apologia for bzr
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David Kastrup |
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Re: Apologia for bzr |
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Mon, 06 Jan 2014 15:54:49 +0100 |
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Sivaram Neelakantan <address@hidden> writes:
> On Mon, Jan 06 2014,Stefan Monnier wrote:
>
>>> On the other hand, I’ve showed emacs to a very large number of new college
>>> students over the years, both programmers and non. The keybindings are
>>> confusing to many people. People who accidentally split-window are very
>>> confused. Nobody was ever confused by the location of the modeline, and
>>> it’s
>>> normal for common apps like web browsers to have a “Status Bar” down there.
>>
>> That corresponds to my experience. The main sources of trouble, AFAICT are:
>> - window management:
>> - how to get rid of a window (e.g. when *Help* introduced a split).
>> - how to get back to a buffer that was somehow buried.
>> - keybindings like C-a, C-x, C-c, C-v
>> - naming (things like windows, frames, kill, yank).
>>
>
> Speaking as an Emacs user, I don't understand this line of
> reasoning. The same logic above could be applied to vi/vim, any
> programming language at all. I ran into the same issues above and I
> got help from this list or from the docs and even rereading the
> tutorial. What's the issue with new users nowadays? All the
> definitions are there in the manual...erm...somewhere but there.
Help/Search Documentation/Emacs Terminology.
--
David Kastrup
- Re: Apologia for bzr, (continued)
- Re: Apologia for bzr, Stefan Monnier, 2014/01/06
- Re: Apologia for bzr, Christophe Poncy, 2014/01/07
- Re: Apologia for bzr, Eric S. Raymond, 2014/01/05
- Re: Apologia for bzr, Florian Weimer, 2014/01/05
- Re: Apologia for bzr, chad, 2014/01/05
- Re: Apologia for bzr, Lennart Borgman, 2014/01/05
- Re: Apologia for bzr, chad, 2014/01/05
- Re: Apologia for bzr, Lennart Borgman, 2014/01/05
- Re: Apologia for bzr, Stefan Monnier, 2014/01/05
- Re: Apologia for bzr, Sivaram Neelakantan, 2014/01/06
- Re: Apologia for bzr,
David Kastrup <=
- Re: Apologia for bzr, Stefan Monnier, 2014/01/06
- Re: Apologia for bzr, Christophe Poncy, 2014/01/07
- Re: Apologia for bzr, James Cloos, 2014/01/05
- Re: Apologia for bzr, Karl Fogel, 2014/01/05
- Re: Apologia for bzr, Eric S. Raymond, 2014/01/05
- Re: Apologia for bzr, David Kastrup, 2014/01/05
- Re: Apologia for bzr, Eric Brown, 2014/01/05
- Re: Apologia for bzr, David Kastrup, 2014/01/05
- Re: Apologia for bzr, Yuri Khan, 2014/01/05
- Re: Apologia for bzr, Michael Albinus, 2014/01/06