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Re: Bug#766395: emacs/gnus: Uses s_client to for SSL.

From: Stefan Monnier
Subject: Re: Bug#766395: emacs/gnus: Uses s_client to for SSL.
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 12:52:55 -0400
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux)

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>> > I consider contributions to security technology and policy[1]
>> > defense of freedom.
>> Note that in the context of "secure"boot, digital restrictions
>> management, and other tivo-ized systems, that same technology is
>> clearly being used against freedom.
> There's nothing wrong with things like secure boot systems provided
> they're fully under the control of the user.

In theory, maybe I could agree.  But so far I haven't seen any use of
secure-boot that helps the user's freedom rather than harms it.

> Yes, the same technology has multiple uses, both pro and anti freedom,
> but that's true of all sorts of things, including computers in general.

My point exactly.

> (I'll point out that given that the NSA "Ant Catalog" includes a bunch
> of BIOS-inserted malware and other load-time infection
> techniques. Secure booting is actually a priority for ordinary people.

How would secure-booting protect the user against BIOS-inserted malware?
A Free BIOS would seem to be much more useful/effective for that purpose.


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