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Re: Bundling GNU ELPA packages

From: Stephen Leake
Subject: Re: Bundling GNU ELPA packages
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 13:57:05 -0600
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.94 (windows-nt)

David Engster <address@hidden> writes:

> Stephen Leake writes:
>> Stefan Monnier <address@hidden> writes:
>>>>> In Emacs-25.1, I'd like to start bundling some GNU ELPA packages into
>>>>> Emacs.
>>>> Now I'm curious.  What's the purpose of having a package system and then
>>>> bundling packages?
>>> I'm sure the XEmacs guys could tell you ;-)
>>> Having a package in ELPA means that it can be updated independently
>>> from Emacs.
>>> Having packages in elpa.git instead of emacs.git makes their release
>>> schedules independent.
>>> Having bundled packages in both emacs.git and in elpa.git means
>>> 2 branches to keep in sync.
>> This says why we should have ELPA, and packages either in elpa.git or
>> emacs.git but not both.
>> The question was why we should then bundle some packages from ELPA in
>> the release tarball.
> Because users expect that Emacs ships with Org, Gnus and CEDET by
> default. 

Perhaps it's time to change that expectation.

For example, I don't use Org or CEDET. So your "users" is leaving out at
least me :).

Debian and Ubuntu must have similar issues about what to include in
their "standard installers"; anyone know enough about that to

-- Stephe

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