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Re: More metaproblem

From: Glenn Morris
Subject: Re: More metaproblem
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2014 13:39:33 -0500
User-agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/)

Karl Fogel wrote:

> The barrier to the bug tracker change is well-documented on this list;
> you're probably seen those conversations.  Explicit proposals to move
> off debbugs have been made

[citation needed]

Mentioning Launchpad is not an explicit proposal.

> and have been equally explicitly shot down on the grounds that debbugs
> is easier for senior maintainers who are already familiar with it.

I have put a lot of work into debbugs.gnu.org.
I didn't much like it when we got it, but it was the system we had, so I
did work to make it better. Because although many people were
making a lot of noise, as usual not many people were doing anything.
In terms of using it, I've closed well over 1000 bugs.

It integrates pretty well with Emacs IMO, in part thanks to the add-ons
other developers have written.

If you want to replace it with something better, fine by me.
I'd find your arguments more compelling if you had contributed more to
Emacs, but perhaps the existing systems make it impossible for you to do
so. I take Stefan concerns with the tracker much more seriously.
But I have no energy left to make it any better.

Some other GNU projects are using debbugs.gnu.org, so my work won't be
totally wasted.

This and other discussions have pretty much demotivated me,
so I hope whatever new system you put in place works well for whoever is
left to use it.

Taking the weekend off now.

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