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Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs?

From: Eli Zaretskii
Subject: Re: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs?
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2016 17:59:52 +0200

> From: Nikolaus Rath <address@hidden>
> Cc: address@hidden
> Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 21:00:50 -0800
> > The reasons exist, and has been described.  You may not agree with
> > them, perhaps due to different experience, but that doesn't mean they
> > aren't valid.
> Yeah, but what exactly is your point here? I was pointing out that this
> practice is astonishing for new contributors. You didn't understand why,
> so I explained that it's astonishing because to a new contributor it
> seems pointless. Now you assert that there are good reasons for it, but
> that really doesn't change that, to new contributors, it appears
> pointless and is astonishing.

My point is that the initial surprise will subside with time, by way
of getting used to it.  It is even possible that you will come to
value this, as someone else who reported here.

> Sorry, I still don't follow your reasoning. I still consider myself a
> potential contributor (I didn't contribute much beyond that first little
> foray), and not requiring me to copy my commit message into the
> ChangeLog is not going to affect the quality of the commit measures in
> any way. The only "message" that I get from this is "Great, sending
> patches for Emacs doesn't require me to do a copy & paste anymore".

As long as you don't have write access to the repository, you are not
required to provide the log entries more than once, and so this issue
doesn't really affect you.  This issue is only relevant to those who
actually push changes, because they might need to copy/paste into the
ChangeLog file.

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