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Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipu
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Richard Stallman |
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Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation |
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Sun, 03 Mar 2019 22:27:39 -0500 |
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> > That avoids the problem I thought I saw, but what is the purpose? I
> > thought the idea of ELPA is that a user would get ELPA packages when perse
> > wants them -- they would not be preloaded.
> Perhaps. An alternative, though, would be to reduce the size of Emacs as
> a monolithic entity and have many more packages that are distributed via
> ELPA. At the moment, the slow release cycle of Emacs means that many
> packages are only updated on a two yearly basis.
I don't see how one is an alternative to the other. They seem
to be talking about two different questions, both about ELPA
but not the same.
> > Is this a way of handling a few packages that are included in Emacs
> > distros, if we maintain them in ELPA? It makes a kind of sense for
> > that case, but I would expect that those testing and making Emacs
> > releases would need more control over which versions of packages are
> > included in the release.
> Yes, although as I say, with the intention of enabling more packages to
> be developed in this way. I'm not sure how many packages are currently
> included in both repos (org and seq for sure).
How many there will be is a different question. The question at hand
is how to handle merging them into Emacs and when.
I think that should be done by explicit command, not automatically or
spontaneously, and not as part of building Emacs.
> > If installing Emacs doesn't require a local copy of ELPA, building
> > Emacs should not need one.
> Building Emacs requires lots of things that installing does not.
I think you have changed the subject,
but since what you said is very general, I can't be sure.
What sort of things do you mean?
> I think this is wrong. Having stuff which is not really source (i.e. it
> is not the prefered location for editing)
It is source code, no matter where it is located. It is source code
even when it is a copy the user has downloaded.
Pastiching our definition of source code could be a good joke, but it
is not a serious argument for a decision about development methods.
--
Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)
- Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation, (continued)
- Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation, Stefan Monnier, 2019/03/10
- Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation, Phillip Lord, 2019/03/11
- Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation, Stefan Monnier, 2019/03/11
- Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation, Phillip Lord, 2019/03/12
- Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation, Stefan Monnier, 2019/03/13
- Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation, Phillip Lord, 2019/03/14
Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation, Richard Stallman, 2019/03/01
- Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation, Phillip Lord, 2019/03/02
- Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation, Richard Stallman, 2019/03/02
- Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation, Phillip Lord, 2019/03/03
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- Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation, Phillip Lord, 2019/03/10
- Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation, Richard Stallman, 2019/03/10
- Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation, Phillip Lord, 2019/03/11
- Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation, Richard Stallman, 2019/03/11
- Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation, Eli Zaretskii, 2019/03/12
- Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation, Robert Pluim, 2019/03/12
- Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation, Eli Zaretskii, 2019/03/12
- Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation, Phillip Lord, 2019/03/12
Re: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation, Phillip Lord, 2019/03/12
XEmacs packages (was: Core ELPA was: Testing fontification, indentation, and buffer manipulation), Stefan Monnier, 2019/03/12