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Re: dash.el [was: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs]

From: Philippe Vaucher
Subject: Re: dash.el [was: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs]
Date: Sat, 9 May 2020 12:56:03 +0200

> > - As far as I know you are the only one who objected strongly against
> > s.el in ELPA (others please voice your opinion if you think like
> > Richard). This created an atmosphere of people fearing that you would
> > use your authority to "veto" such adoption despite Stefan Monnier &
> > others wanting s.el in ELPA. I think you need to clarify your
> > position/power here.
> Richard also proposed a compromise which AFAIU would allow it to be
> added.  For some reason, that proposal got no responses at all.

I tried to find that compromise again, all I found was "See my message
to Stefan for a change that would make s.el ok to add." but could not
find this message. If you would be so kind as to quote Richard again
so I have his perspective.

> > - For most users, dash.el and s.el are very similar in nature. dash.el
> > is already in ELPA. If we refuse s.el, isn't it inconsistent? What
> > about the message we send?
> Are you saying that popularity and similarity of a package is the only
> criterion we should apply when deciding whether to add a package to
> ELPA?  IOW, are you saying that the technical details of the package's
> implementation should not matter, for fear of sending the wrong
> message?

No, that's not what I am saying. I'd be interesting to see if you can
understand what I am trying to say without me explaining it in
details, because I feel that many people would understand what I am
trying to say, even if it is not said perfectly. This would be good
exercice to figure out how I could say things differently and how you
could try to understand things differently.

Can you give it another try? And if you still don't understand I'll
explain it another way.


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