Re: dash.el [was: Re: Imports / inclusion of s.el into Emacs]

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Richard Stallman <address@hidden> 작성:

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> > So "clostring-prepend"
>
> Rather, 'clos-prepend'.
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> >                            doesn't really achieve anything other than making
> > it unreadable. Magnar's clever choice of naming is, I think, one of the
> > reasons people like his libraries. Why change a feature and turn it into
> > unreadability.
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> 'clos-prepend' is not harder to read than 's-prepend'.

The problem is that lots of packages use ‘s-prepend’, rather than
‘clos-prepend’. There are too many packages that are blocked on being ELPA
because of s.el and f.el (as dash.el is on ELPA).

> Ostensibly it is "just an optional package", but if "most packages use it"
> it would really be a replacement installed half-way.
>
> The s- functions, by themselves, are clean.  s.el by itself is not a
> mess.  But Emacs plus s.el is a mess.

That’s true. And there was a big previous discussion where some people here
tried to explain why people tend to use the s.el functions instead of the
Elisp ones, and rename some Elisp functions to make them more sense. But
nobody wanted to add s.el into Emacs core, I think everybody would be opposed
to that.

> It contains 65 functions, similar to the Emacs string functions but
> with idiosyncratic incompatibilities scattered throughout.  Some of
> the changes are good, some are gratuitously bad.  Two different string
> function interface, the one we developed and the one that was dropped
> on us from outside.
>
> Would we have any say over further development of the s- interface?
> I get the impression we would not.
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