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Re: "Why is emacs so square?"

From: Arthur Miller
Subject: Re: "Why is emacs so square?"
Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2020 15:44:02 +0200
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux)

Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

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>   > >   > Can't that be helped with some of live preview options for a pdf or 
> ps
>   > >   > or latex format? Auctex maybe? Or maybe some of org -> pdf/ps + 
> DocView?
>   > >
>   > > It would probably take half a minute each time.
>   > I think you made a typo here, it should have been "half a second"
>   > probably.
> That would be an amazing typo.  I expect starting these various
> programs to take a long time.  But if it doesn't, they might
> be adequate.
I don't know what kind of computer you use, of course, but if you ment
the startup time for a browser, then maybe it is a half second or so, but
does it matter? It happends once, when one start to work on a pamflet.
LibreOffice takes also a half a second if not more to startup every time
and I have quite decent machine.

If you start a Chromium process, and then connect from within Emacs with
impatient-mode, I don't think you would suffer from lack of real time
performance; not for something like a pamflet.

Another option is to use some webkit wrap + xwidgets, but I haven't
tryed it myself. No idea how easy to use or good it is, but for preview
it should probably be good enough. I have seen some Reddit threads
and YT videos where people demonstrated it, but I didn't care to try

Here is some 4 year old video where a guy is demonstrating xwidgets and
webkit to render html in gnus:


(download with youtube-dl to skip proprietary js)

Very nice presentation by the way.

With HTML+CSS as intermediate file format, one can have some predefined
templates with a pamflet size, layout, typografi etc, and then just edit
content of few html tags.

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