Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars

[Christopher Dimech]

> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 6:47 PM
> From: "Óscar Fuentes" <ofv@wanadoo.es>
> To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars
>
> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> 
> > Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es> writes:
> >
> >>> I don't think that's a good argument for having a GUI element that few
> >>> people like,
> >>
> >> We have no data to support that.
> >
> > I know you're being funny, but: The only data we have does support that.
> 
> "Only data" != "data reliable enough to support decissions".
> 
> >>> and which may well be discouraging people from using Emacs
> >>> at all (because it looks useless and out of touch).
> >>
> >> We have no data to support that.
> >
> > I did, very carefully, not claim that we do.
> 
> At some point on the past it was decided that having a toolbar was a
> good thing. Switching it off just because a very poorly executed survey
> barely resembles a democratic vote on its utility, without revisiting
> the original motivation, is questionable.
> 
> Really, this kind of decissions should be based on guidance by UI
> experts. Sadly, it seems that we have none onboard, same as every other
> Free or Open Source projects around (and even most propietary ones).
> They are very scarce.

I am!  Having worked in remote sensing applications for natural resource 
management,
and submarine surveillance (my current specialisation).  
 
> BTW, I disable the toolbar (and the menu) on my config.
> 
> 
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