Re: Make all tree-sitter modes optional

[Dmitry Gutov]

On 17/02/2023 16:40, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> I understand that
> you disagree, but I respectfully request that you-all assume that
> either I'm right here (in that I consider the alternatives to be
> worse), or if I'm wrong, it is for me to make this mistake and learn
> from it.  Please give me some minimal credit that I have thought long
> and hard about the possible alternatives, and didn't arrive at this
> conclusion easily, and that I'm also fully aware that changing the
> behavior by loading a package is not good, in and of itself.

I suppose there is not much to add here, and the mistake (if it is one, 
respectfully) is yours to make.

I just don't understand what's your plan here regarding Emacs 29. What's 
going to happen next? What kind of feedback will you be looking for?

What I think will happen, is people will try out the new modes, some 
will suffer the inconveniences we warned about here and possibly think 
less of Emacs as a result; others will avoid those problems by accident; 
yet a lot more users will never try these new modes and thus avoid the 
problems as well.

If we're lucky, we get a couple of new bug reports associated with it, 
maybe 1-6 months after the release: a lot of users don't report 
problems, much less these less obvious ones, where the behavior doesn't 
end up in a "error" written somewhere. The reports will likely repeat 
some of what's already been said.

At what point does this turn into some kind of conclusion, and a 
teaching moment, so to speak?