Re: Lisp files that load cl-lib in problematical ways

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> Cc: acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 22:46:53 -0400
> 
>   > > Even calling M-: (backtrace) causes cl-lib to get loaded.
> 
>   > That's because we use cl-print to display the backtrace.  That change
>   > was done intentionally and for good reasons.  So that is not a
>   > "problem" that needs to be "fixed", from where I stand.
> 
> Can this load cl-print.el instead of cl-lib.el?  Would that do the job?

No.  If you look at cl-print.el, you will immediately see why: it uses
cl-incf and cl-find-class.

Once again: we do pay attention to this stuff, so the chance of
finding some random example where cl-lib is loaded due to a bug are
slim.  And in any case, it is not necessary to discuss this here, one
can just look in the code using "C-h f".