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Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove
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Daniel Colascione |
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Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove |
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Sun, 23 Jun 2024 10:38:45 -0400 |
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On June 23, 2024 10:25:29 AM EDT, Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Daniel Colascione <dancol@dancol.org> writes:
>
>> Opt-out collection of anonymous metrics has been an industry standard
>> for many years now. There's nothing morally objectionable about
>> it. It's perfectly normal.
>
>Child labor
That escalated quickly.
>
>And I certainly find objectionable software that connects to the
>Internet without my informed consent.
>
>> Nor would there be anything about asking users "Collect anonymous
>> metrics to help Emacs development? Y/N" on first startup.
>
>This is by definition "opt-in", which produces results that, by your own
>admission, are totally meaningless.
It's more "forced choice" than opt-in, same as recently-required browser choice
screens in EU countries. IMHO opt-out is also good enough, but I'd be happy
with this forced choice too. I don't think an out-of-the-way pure opt-in option
would collect enough unbiased usage data. The conversion funnel narrows rapidly
as friction increases.
> It would also be irritating.
It's one key, once, ever.
- Re: Telemetry, opt-in,opt-out [was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove], (continued)
- Re: Telemetry, opt-in,opt-out [was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove], tomas, 2024/06/23
- Re: Telemetry, opt-in,opt-out [was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove], Stefan Monnier, 2024/06/23
- RE: [External] : Re: Telemetry, opt-in,opt-out [was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove], Drew Adams, 2024/06/23
- Re: [External] : Re: Telemetry, opt-in, opt-out [was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove], Madhu, 2024/06/25
- RE: [External] : Re: Telemetry, opt-in, opt-out [was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove], Drew Adams, 2024/06/25
- Re: [External] : Re: Telemetry, opt-in, opt-out [was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove], Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide, 2024/06/25
- Re: [External] : Re: Telemetry, opt-in, opt-out [was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove], Richard Stallman, 2024/06/28
- Re: Telemetry, opt-in,opt-out [was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove], Ihor Radchenko, 2024/06/28
- Re: Telemetry, opt-in,opt-out [was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove], tomas, 2024/06/28
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Po Lu, 2024/06/23
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove,
Daniel Colascione <=
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Stefan Kangas, 2024/06/23
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Eli Zaretskii, 2024/06/23
- RE: [External] : Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Drew Adams, 2024/06/23
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Gregor Zattler, 2024/06/23
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Alan Mackenzie, 2024/06/23
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Daniel Colascione, 2024/06/23
- RE: [External] : Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Drew Adams, 2024/06/23
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Eli Zaretskii, 2024/06/23
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Daniel Colascione, 2024/06/23
- Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove, Eli Zaretskii, 2024/06/23