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Re: [Orgmode] Re: org-style folding for a .emacs

From: Eric Schulte
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Re: org-style folding for a .emacs
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:31:28 -0600
User-agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.0.92 (darwin)

Hi Sébastien,

Sébastien Vauban <address@hidden> writes:

> Hello Eric,
> "Eric Schulte" wrote:
>> I've added some simplifying functions to the literate programming
>> functionality of org-babel.  It should now be easy to embed your elisp
>> initialization into org-mode files.  Specifically there is now a new
>> `org-babel-load-file' function which can load the elisp portions of
>> org-mode files in the same manner as the normal `load-file' command.
>> To use this you need to clone the latest version of org-babel[1], and
>> then add the following to your emacs initialization (this worked for me
>> when a base emacs "emacs -Q").
>> (add-to-list 'load-path "~/path/to/org/lisp")
>> (add-to-list 'load-path "~/path/to/org-babel/lisp")
>> (require 'org-babel-init)
>> ;; now you can load your org-mode files with embedded elisp
>> (org-babel-load-file "~/path/to/org-mode-file.org")
>> ;; for example
>> (org-babel-load-file "~/path/to/org-babel/test-tangle.org")
>> Hopefully this will provide the literate programming functionality
>> without too much trouble.
> I'm a heavy user of "literate programming" for rapports I write for clients
> (in fact, for me, first, but I give them to our clients as well).
> Up to a couple of months ago, I was doing literate programming via LaTeX and
> nuweb, from Windows as my nuweb binary was just available for that platform.
> So, writing a `.w' file from which I extract a `.tex' one and the source code.
> Then, the last time I did it, I switched to doing such reports under Ubuntu,
> with the noweb package. That is a `.nw' file which is "compiled" to a `.tex',
> and which is as well outputting all my code.
> This is nice, and works well. But, now, I am trying as hard as possible to
> avoid writing LaTeX directly and let Org do the work for me. So, if I can use
> Org to create my `.tex' file and the source code from it as well (did I
> understand correctly?), then that will be wonderful.
> Do you have examples or a tiny tutorial about this?

There are two small examples which should be helpful.  First grab a copy
of the org-babel code [1].  Then load org-babel [2].

To demonstrate extraction of code, open "test-tangle.org" file in the
base of the org-babel directory and run `org-babel-tangle'.  This should
create a couple of source-code files in the same directory.

To demonstrate creation of documents, open the "test-export.org" file in
the base of the org-babel directory, and export it as you would any
other org-mode file.  The "exports" header argument controls how
source-code blocks are exported, with the following options

- none :: no part of the source-code block is exported in the document
- results :: only the output of the evaluated block is exported
- code :: the code itself is exported
- both :: both the code and results are exported

> Best regards,
>   Seb
> PS- Excellent you're looking at this, because I thought I was the latest
>     "literate programmer" on earth. All the mailing lists about that are
>     dying.

While I find the notion of literate programming very appealing, I have
no practical experience with it.  The literate programming functionality
in org-babel was inspired by talking with Eric Neilsen and by the sense
that literate programming fit with org-babel's focus on code blocks.

As you are actually familiar with literate programming and tools like
noweb, I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on the current
and potential future literate programming implementations in org-babel.

Best -- Eric

[1]  git clone git://github.com/eschulte/org-babel.git

(add-to-list 'load-path "~/path/to/org-babel/lisp")
(require 'org-babel-init)

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