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Re: [O] Org Tutorials need more structure

From: Marcin Borkowski
Subject: Re: [O] Org Tutorials need more structure
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 10:37:41 +0200

Dnia 2013-09-28, o godz. 09:22:02
Joseph Vidal-Rosset <address@hidden> napisaƂ(a):

> Hi Dominik, hi everyone,
> Thank you for org-mode and thanks to all who contribute to this
> project.
> I am a newby to org-mode , I am an emacs user for LaTeX, mainly, and I
> would be happy to use more and more emacs, so org-mode seems very
> attractive.
> I imagine that writing a tutorial is a big work and I hope that I
> will not offend people who have taken this time. But I must say that
> the org-mode manual and the tutorials that I have tried to read are
> not enough progressive for beginners and do not take care of
> difference between interests of people.
> Example: I am presently mainly interested to see if it is possible to
> use gnus to write a scientific letter with all conveniences of
> texlive. Of course I can open a tex file with letter class and send
> to my colleague a pdf file. But it would be more convenient to write
> an email and using conversions to html and png images to send to him
> directly this email. I guess it is possilbe to do it with gnus. But
> the documentation is esoteric: I hear about links, but how it works
> concretly with example understanble by a newby ...  mystery. It is
> therefore frustrating and quickly discouraging.
> So, in my opinion, a good tutorial is divided into precise tasks and
> speaks like that:
> "You need to do that?  So, follow me , from step to step, I will
> going to show you how I succeed to do what you want to do, and by
> imitation, you will also succeed ! "  A good tutorial avoids to
> suppose that the reader is already an expert.
> In a word, too much tutorial in org-mode lack of pedagogical efforts.
> Sorry to be speak so frankly, but I hope it will help.
> Waiting your help with gnus - latex and conversion in html , etc. etc.
> All the best
> Jo.

Well, from what I heard, Gnus is a bad example - it seems to be
notoriously difficult to get into.  OTOH, with Org-mode it is much
better - I found even the manual *very* accessible, at least for a
long-time Emacs user.


Marcin Borkowski
Adam Mickiewicz University

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