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Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0

From: Bruce D'Arcus
Subject: Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 10:38:39 -0400

On Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 10:08 AM Vikas Rawal <vikasrawal@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > What is the general view of the community about this?
>> I don't know about the general view of the community, but, as a data
>> point, I find it very sad.
> Exactly how I feel. Particularly so because org-cite was indeed inspired from 
> org-ref and all the great work John has done on this over the years. I do not 
> see any substantive discussion of the limitations that John has pointed out 
> with org-cite in the archives of the mailing list. We should have a 
> conversation about those.
> If I understand correctly, the main limitation according to him is that 
> org-cite does not handle cross-references. Is that the only problem? What do 
> others think about it? Do we want the citation system to be able to handle 
> cross-references? If not, do we need a separate system that handles 
> cross-references beyond what is available in org-mode already? Can that 
> system not be created in a manner that would not break the org-cite syntax?
> I think we should have a conversation and collectively think of what is the 
> best way forward.

Yes, and no.

Conversation on org-cite took place on this list for years, with
diverse people, with diverse expertise and POV, cycling in and out
over that time.

John raised the cross-reference question towards the very end, during
the testing period, when it was almost merged.


I still think the path forward on that is TBD, though as I said, I
don't think it should be in scope for org-cite per se, but org more
generally yes.

If he has some other issues (which I suspect he does; maybe related to
fontification?) that might be addressed, I'm sure he'll raise them.


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