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Re: gnokii and Nokie N95 8GB

From: Pawel Kot
Subject: Re: gnokii and Nokie N95 8GB
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 11:02:42 +0200


On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Jari Turkia <address@hidden> wrote:
> Arnold Troeger wrote:
> > I've been doing some research on gnokii and the N95, and haven't found
> anything much.  Can anyone tell me if they have gnokii working with the n95,
> or baring that, what the plans are for getting gnokii working with it?
> >
>  Gnokii on S60 is supported by an application on the mobile end (Gnapplet).
> It seems that the native protocol on a S60 device is not very usable for
> anything else except transferring your own handler to the mobile.

To be more specific. gnokii main area of interest are FBUS protocol
and AT protocol. Symbian phones have completly no FBUS support (which
is included only in Nokia phones Series40 and earlier). For unknown
reason Symbian phones have also very limited AT command subset
implemented. Therefore using AT commands you can send SMS, but you
can't read SMS, you can's read/write phonebook or calendar, etc. On
the other hand Symbian supports SyncML and Obex which are not
supported by gnokii.

We have (namely Bozo did) created gnapplet to be able to get from the
phone what we want. gnapplet consists of Symbian application (you need
to install it on the phone and run it every time you want connection)
and gnokii driver which talk using our internal protocol.

However this is not the case for Symbian60 3rd Edition which N95
happens to be. Symbian API completly changed for the 3rd edition and
nobody ported gnapplet (yet). There have been several attempts but all
of them failed (as of now).

What you can get from N95:
 - very limited functionality with gnokii using AT driver
 - access to filesystem using OpenObex tools
 - phonebook, calendar, todo, etc synchronization using Opensync (or
any other SyncML compatible software)

Unfortunately there's no single application to manage such phone.

>  Nobody else then me has indicated any interest in developing such
> application based on the S60 2nd ed version.

You mean 3rd Edition.

>  The problem is that current Gnapplet version (for S60 2nd ed.) has been
> developed with Linux tools and I have zero experience with them. All
> professional Symbian development is based on Windows-tools (which are freely
> available on the net). So, unfortunately there are no results yet.

That's right. Daniele recently started to work on this but he faced
the problem of the self-signing site being down -- 3rd Ed. requires
applications to be digitally signed in order to run.

take care,
Pawel Kot

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