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RE: [Gnu-arch-users] Comparisons with Perforce


From: Alexey Solofnenko
Subject: RE: [Gnu-arch-users] Comparisons with Perforce
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 10:41:51 -0700

Almost any version is better than Arch, just because they support Windows.
Windows Arch fails downloading large archives, next time it forgets about
the failure and loads only updated files into sandbox. I tried to download
the latest TLA sources and tla itself cannot do it. 

This is what I get:


06/13/2004  11:42 AM    <DIR>          .
06/13/2004  11:42 AM    <DIR>          ..
06/13/2004  11:41 AM    <DIR>          .arch-ids
06/13/2004  11:41 AM             1,120 =INSTALL
06/13/2004  11:41 AM                60 =RELEASE-ID
06/13/2004  11:41 AM    <DIR>          configs
06/13/2004  11:41 AM            18,393 COPYING
06/13/2004  11:41 AM               301 Makefile
06/13/2004  11:42 AM    <DIR>          {arch}
               4 File(s)         19,874 bytes
               5 Dir(s)  10,874,757,120 bytes free


Is there any chance of working TLA on Windows?

- Alexey.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Lord [mailto:address@hidden 
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 10:33 AM
To: address@hidden
Cc: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Comparisons with Perforce



    > From: Erik de Castro Lopo <address@hidden>

    > The other system they are looking at is Perforce which I know
    > nothing about. Is there anyone here that has used Perforce 
    > and can tell me the main advantages tla has over Perforce for
    > the centralised development these people will be doing? Is
    > there anything Perforce does better than Arch so I can do my
    > best to gloss over it? :-)

I think that the main advantages of Perforce are two-fold.

1) Older, so with more bells and whistles.

   Sure, it's core appears to be inferior to arch.   But,
   at present, it's more of an out-of-the-box solution
   than arch.

   For some shops, that's all you need to know.   Arch loses.
   I've observed start-ups (with very finite-in-time development
   priorities) pick Perforce for exactly this reason and no other.

   Does your development shop care where they are positioned in 3
   years?


2) Currently commercial -- you get a sales guy and a support line.

   We're working on that.  You can contact me off-list for my help in
   this regard.  You can always ask on the list or among list members
   for freelancers and the like.  Others have succesfully gotten
   professional attention by both of those techniques.

-t



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