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Re: GNUstep history

From: Gregory John Casamento
Subject: Re: GNUstep history
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 11:41:12 -0700 (PDT)

Hey Scott,

I remember you and I vividly remember net-community.   How things have changed since then.

We should work to correct some of the misconceptions about GNUstep's history.   If possible, I'd like to talk to you about this.  

Gregory Casamento -- Principal Consultant - OLC, Inc
# GNUstep Chief Maintainer

----- Original Message ----
From: Scott Christley <address@hidden>
To: address@hidden
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2008 1:56:37 PM
Subject: GNUstep history

Hello GNUstep webmasters!

I was browsing awhile ago and happened upon the Wikipedia entry for 

and what struck me was that the History was wrong.  Not blatantly 
wrong as if completely incorrect, just missing lots of information and 
giving the false impression that objcX was the initial code base for 
GNUstep, which it was not.  None of Paul's and the SLAC code could be 
used because the copyright could not be assigned to FSF.  That's when 
I created gnustep-gui from scratch and the windows backend (which I 
think has been scrubbed now), and assigned them to FSF.  And later on 
gnustep-db and gnustep-make.

I really didn't think too much of it at the time, and I know it is 
Wikipedia's general policy not to allow posts about oneself, so I 
didn't pursue it.

Anyways, I've just started to look into getting GNUstep into Fedora, 
some people actually started the conversation a month or so ago.  I've 
been going through the email discussion, following the links when I 
happened across this GNUstep history page.

Which is nice but also incomplete in the beginning days.  Though it 
doesn't say it explicitly, it give the impression that objcX was the 
initial code base for the gnustep-gui that we have today.  I also note 
that all the efforts between 1996 and 1998 are essentially blank.

I'm guessing this is because of a number of reasons:

1) The unfortunate demise of my company NET-Community in 1998 forced 
me into industry, and into a position where I could not work on free 
software for a number of years.  So about the only person still active 
in GNUstep who still remembers me is probably Adam Fedor, my time did 
not cross with Richard Frith-Macdonald who really did a great job in 
moving GNUstep to the next level.

2) The tendency I had in those early days to use generic accounts on 
my development machines (like address@hidden, or address@hidden
) instead of my own, which means my name is missing from the early 

3) Also because none of the emails for me in the GNUstep source code 
or elsewhere are valid, so maybe people tried to contact me but never 

I also notice that my entry on the GNUstep who's who page is sparse.

Personally, I feel very silly even pointing this stuff out.  I always 
assumed it was common knowledge to everybody, but apparently not!

I wonder if maybe you are interested in filling in some of the gaps in 
GNUstep history?

Scott Christley

a little glimpse in the past :-)

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