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Re: Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS pro

From: Christopher Allan Webber
Subject: Re: Idea: 'ethical hosting' [formerly mailman service (free for FOSS projects)]
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 22:59:33 -0500
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Pjotr Prins writes:

> On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 06:11:41PM +0000, ng0 wrote:
>> > I don't think we should offer VPS (at first). But we can offer the
>> > choice of using other VPS'. The VPS marked is overcrowded and very
>> > competitive - I would not want to compete with that. I want to compete
>> > with companies that offer hosting, but do not provide the software
>> > stack. I also want people to have access to their own VPS. That is the
>> > ethical part.
>> Okay, then I do not understandand completely where you are going with this.
>> For a hosted service you need a host first. Do you want to offer consulting
>> work, so that this can be deployed at service (which furthermore would
>> require some legal annoyance), as a service? In other words, some of us
>> probably to cover the legal part with a contract at Guix Europe e.v. (if
>> the registered association law in France works similar to the ones in 
>> Germany)
>> will set up services on demand for interested people and organizations?
> This is one example for hosting mailman:
> They host it on some other VPS service.
> What I want to do is provide something similar with a slick web
> interface where people click on a service, say a VPS with mailman,
> configure it and launch it on a VPS hoster of their choice - we can
> offer multiple solutions on multiple hosting parties. Then the client
> has a running and configured server. We charge a fee on top of the VPS
> fee.

Note that that vision of building a web UI on top of a declarative
system to make deploying and maintaining servers easier is what
originally drew me to Guix.  Still hasn't left my mind as something

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