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Re: EmacsW32 invocation options

From: Hadron
Subject: Re: EmacsW32 invocation options
Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 00:38:48 +0200
User-agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.99 (gnu/linux)

"Juanma Barranquero" <address@hidden> writes:

> On 5/2/07, Hadron <address@hidden> wrote:
>> A brief browse of forums and the emacs irc channel suggests that most/a
>> good % of people do indeed find it daunting to get emacs working under
>> windows.
> Do you mean, more people find it daunting to get Emacs working on
> Windows than on GNU/Linux?

I remember years ago I certainly did. But having abandoned Windows now I
can only report from my perception/experience.

>> I am surprised you would disagree. What is simple to you is not
>> necessarily simple for complete newbies - most of whom I would guess run
>> Windows.
> The kind of things that make Emacs difficult are not going to
> disappear by making emacsclient start Emacs. A complete newbie must be
> ready to delve into a (very good, but extensive) documentation, and
> perhaps even do some elisp programming, to take full advantage of
> Emacs.

There are many things in emacs which can and should be simplified. The
server thing is one such. I see no reason whatsoever that emacsclient
cant do exactly the same as "server-start" - certainly on a single
machine. or maybe default to using the system clipboard for cut &
paste. Things like that turn new users away. Saying "its because thats
the way it is" is inflexible and non productive.

ps if anyone with any shout reads this - is there any change
update-alternatives could change emacsclient when it changes emacs? I
constantly fall foul of that.

>> By far the most important thing to
>> instill in any  emacs apprentice is to learn how to use the built in
>> help.
> Exactly. I did three attempts over the years before I finally warmed
> to Emacs. The definitive push was taking the time to follow the
> tutorial and read at least some of the docs.

I can't disagree with that. Its very easy to cry for help but its there
under your nose all the time. I have made the mistake more than once in
emacs and probably will do again.

>             Juanma


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