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Re: using use-package

From: Phillip Lord
Subject: Re: using use-package
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 10:35:15 +0100
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Stefan Monnier <address@hidden> writes:

>> I'm still trying to scope what you are after, though. Are you interested
>> only in those features which can never overlap with ELPA? Or only in
>> those features will necessarily overlap with ELPA.
> Not sure either.  Maybe I'm looking for something like use-package but
> which takes better advantage of ELPA.

Over and above the "ensure" keyword which does take advantage of ELPA.

> Maybe also one that better integrates with Customize.

This is something that I think would be nice, but is actually
independent of use-package.

I'd love to be able to do something like

(custom-setq my-variable 10)

which sets the variable, but does not result in the "the value of this
variable has been changed outside of customize" message in Custom. And
also (configurable) which errors if my-variable is typed as a string in

> I guess I'm also interested to see what other users find important in
> terms of "configuration problems that need solving".
> Maybe one other aspect is the issue of bootstrap/ordering between
> package.el and Customize: we want to be able to customize package.el via
> Customize (and some of these settings may need to be set before
> package-initialize), but the one-and-only call to custom-set-variables
> often needs to be done after package-initialize.  So, splitting the
> config "by package" is probably the right way to go about it.

I can see this is a problem, but haven't got anything to suggest I am


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